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Why I love P & T

Today, over at theknicksblog.com, Tommy Dee posted a link to a zagsblog article regarding the possibility of Iman Shumpert moving to the starting lineup. Some people here don't like Tommy Dee - I happen to like him, but that's not what the post is about.

The post is about the reason my heart was filled this morning with a sudden influx of quasi-embarassing yet genuine love and appreciation not only for Seth and Osborn and Gian but for the crew of thoughtful and amusing regular comment and fanpost contributors here at Posting and Toasting. And the reason my heart was filled with syrupy goo is that in response to Tommy's perfectly reasonable and informative post about Shumpert starting, the very first comment posted in response was this gem:

FRANKGIFFORDFAN Top executives with the shoe company have made no secret of the fact that they'd like nothing more than to see Howard in either New York or Los Angeles. With fellow client Derrick Rose in Chicago, Howard would give Adidas a stronghold in two of the country's three biggest markets and the wherewithal to challenge Nike. "They'd love to corner those two markets," said a person connected to the sneaker industry. "They'd be in heaven, I can tell you that." CBSSports.com

Frankgifford fan, If you're on here, I apologize - I'm sure you're a nice person. I just don't want to talk sports with you.

Trying to work together as a team to produce success is a perplexing yet beautiful riddle. It is a quintessentially human endeavor. As human beings, we struggle to balance the individual with the group and to succeed in our endeavors. As spectators and supporters of the Knicks' attempts, we gain insight into what it means to live and be human. We learn, not just about the fascinating game of basketball, but about our fellow humans, what makes them tick, and how we can be part of a successful team in our lives. It's not just about wearing certain colors and drinking beer and getting the best, most famous players and turning over cars and lighting them on fire if and when a championship is won. It's about the journey.

Let me reitierate: I ♥ P & T.

I hope I haven't embarassed anyone.

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I like this website too.

Thanks for making us a contender, Donnie.

by StarksMiddleFinger on Jan 6, 2012 11:20 AM EST reply actions  

<3 P&T

I’m so happy I have a phone with the internet now too, I read it while I poop.

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by Rorschach44 on Jan 6, 2012 11:30 AM EST reply actions  

Yup

Best Christmas present ever; entertaining poops. Unfortunately those poops will not include me reading about extra e pooping but that is besides the point. Oh and I thoroughly enjoy this place too

by revans on Jan 11, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

this place aint too shabby

very well said fuhry. indeed.

sreh ladien e' ta janjia

by Lord Smackington on Jan 6, 2012 12:12 PM EST reply actions  

Let's be honest though

It’s kind of about turning over cars and lighting them on fire. Yeah, yeah, the journey. But also, the arson.

by flossy on Jan 6, 2012 12:41 PM EST reply actions  

See

People make this mistake a lot. You don’t have to wait until a sports championship to turn over a car and light it on fire. You can do that any time.

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Jan 6, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

well...

you know, they’re not gonna show that on sportscenter.

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by stingy d on Jan 6, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

the best part about the arson and public vandalism

is that you can also do it if the team loses! but only in the championship. otherwise it gets played out.

by latrell chokewell on Jan 6, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I fucking love P&T

And I probably wouldn’t consider myself as knowledgeable a Knicks fan if it wasn’t for this site.

Those aren’t the posts on TKB that make me close my tab though. It’s the personal attacks against anybody that might want to keep Pringles around for at least a couple of more months. Anybody with a different opinion is deemed as stupid by another commenter that doesn’t back up their argument at all. And that Frank Peter Griffin dude…sheesh.

New York Knicks = Sleeping Giants

by moose35 on Jan 6, 2012 1:04 PM EST reply actions  

Great knowledgable fan base here.

I love the fact that I can come here..read, toast, and post. With a great group up top that runs this blog..they set the tone for us toasters. This is by far the #1 Knicks web page. The only other place I go to is knicksnow. and thats to watch video. Theknicksblog gets my visit when i want up to date twitter talk.. mostly during trade season and or draft time.

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Jan 6, 2012 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

more boasting

for posting and toasting!

/// aighttho.com \\\/// twitter.com/aighttho \\\

by stingy d on Jan 6, 2012 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

I've always valued Seth and the boys' refusal to rumor mongering

unless its really close to happening. TKB provides me with somewhere to check said rumors, but I don’t bother have an account there. Mad love for this place

by total hermination on Jan 6, 2012 5:08 PM EST reply actions  

This comment wins

the ‘make me laugh uncontrollably at my desk’ award

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Jan 6, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

P&T is the best

Great blend of knowledge and humor, i dont really use any other Knicks sites other than Knicksnow.com and MSG.com for interview vids.

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by Ozraider on Jan 6, 2012 6:00 PM EST reply actions  

posting and toasting makes me feel stuff too...

like i have an army of brothers, many of whom i want to beat the hell out of… but whose company i thoroughly enjoy.

thanks guys.

by bucketsncents on Jan 6, 2012 6:07 PM EST reply actions  

even after we lose, i can still come on here, read and not feel so alone.

by RASHADI on Jan 6, 2012 6:18 PM EST reply actions  

As Knicks fans

we can all use some laughs. Ideally, we are laughing with and not at our team though.

Love P&T

by WCF10 on Jan 6, 2012 6:22 PM EST reply actions  

I'm not a Knicks fan...

but you guys do a good job with this site, the writers AND the commenters.

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by 82-0 on Jan 6, 2012 8:35 PM EST reply actions  

You're welcome!

Always nice to hear positive feedback

by KnickWiz on Jan 7, 2012 2:31 AM EST reply actions  

I don't understand this post

Since when has Posting and Toasting been completely devoid of gossip and rumors? It’s part of being a sports fan – speculating about the future of your team, and imagining what can be possible with new personnel. Now, don’t get me wrong, I absolutely genuinely despise Tommy Dee, and there are quite a few reasons why i have 2,241 career comments here and go literally nowhere else for Knicks stuff any more, but you’re praising Posting and Toasting for a trait that it simply doesn’t possess.

by BJabs on Jan 7, 2012 9:35 AM EST reply actions  

It's about the balance.

On other sites, the comments seem to be dominated by a)fire D’antoni b)trade the whole team, or c) Jocking on other teams’ players.

There’s a certain amount of that stuff like that on here, hell, that’s OK, it’s human nature, but it doesn’t dominate and drown out everything else. That’s why I continue to read and comment on this site.

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Jan 7, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

My p[roblem with other sites is the complete lack of class in responses and the personal attacks

that completely make me wanna pound everyone but leave period. I have been to TKB since last season but never ever bothered to waste my time posting there. Worse might be the “big” sites like CBS sportsline etc with lame assed rape jokes and rampant racist jokes. I don’t mind people getting angry or having a difference of opinion, but most people would never confront an argument face to face without expecting to throw down….but I’m betting most couldn’t back up their trash anyway

by screamedia on Jan 8, 2012 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Good point

I think that the civility is really what allows the wide range of opinions in comments. It’s not so much that I agree with everyone, it’s that stuff stays respectful and non-shouty even in disagreement.

Get The Frickin' Rebound

by fuhry on Jan 9, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I have no real problems with rumors or whatnot

As long as people are measured and intelligent in their discussion of them.
Sure I would trade Amar’e for Howard, but I don’t think it could ever happen and I wouldn’t want to risk the oh so fragile chemistry the Knicks have right now.

by Mikel L on Jan 7, 2012 2:46 PM EST reply actions  

thanks for commenting dude

anytime…also nice jersey!

sreh ladien e' ta janjia

by Lord Smackington on Jan 8, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks

Yea that was my jersey for the team i played on in a league in korea

"If it ain't broke, don't break it." -Charles Oakley

by Tony Marciano on Jan 8, 2012 6:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Hey man

That’s awesome! See Seth, you mean something!

by Joamiq on Jan 16, 2012 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

P&T is the best! Much <3!!

Shump Shump Yall !!
KNICKS!

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by VicTor W on Jan 8, 2012 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

what would i do without my P&T

P&T is clearly the most insightful, humorous, analytical, and classy Knicks blog. I don’t post much, but I definitely consider this blog home.

by knicker4life on Jan 9, 2012 8:44 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Bottom line

Is that this place feels like a bunch of people talking; kind of like a barber shop.
It lacks pretension and dudes know what they are talking about.
I have no stomach for the other sites mentioned, they are straight amateur hour and bad spam.

by Cardboard_cutout_of_greg_butler on Jan 9, 2012 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

atleast he got one thing right... he's a fan of the giff

but yea, even tho i havent contributed the past week or so (been busy now that its the offseason). this is probably my favorite site.
no better balance of a thin rope as to what u can say. but still tight enough so things dont get outta control (Looking at u BGN).
a perfect balance of serious knowledgable contributors and comical, yet not trolling guys (i would love to consider myself both, even if u guys dont. haha)
great moderation and articles/fanposts.

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 12, 2012 8:44 PM EST reply actions  

Two reasons

1. Clutters the comment section visually.
2. Slows down the load time for people with slow internet connections.

by Seth on Jan 14, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

1) the visual clutter is worth

2) this is 2012, how slow can your internet be?

2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!

by astromets on Jan 18, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

1. I disagree

2 Some people in the world still have slow internet connections and loading a page that has 800 comments, 40 of which are giant photos or .gifs of Borat or something takes a while.

by Seth on Jan 19, 2012 7:43 AM EST up reply actions  

the Giant moving picture thingies make a lap top very slow`

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
Jason Peire Paul (JPP) 2011-2012 NFL Defensive player of the year
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 19, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I HATE THIS SITE

it sucks donkey balls

No but seriously. I like this place. I feel comfortable here. I like that it feels like a community, so that when I disagree with someone, rather than going off and being rude I try to treat them with respect (and apologies to all for those times that I fail in that). That’s a positive thing – more of the internet needs to be like this site.

Of course, Seth provides fantastic insight AND humor that is… I don’t know how to express how funny I think Seth is. It’s really hard these days to be humorously offbeat with cleverness and wit (as opposed to stabs at totally random absurdist humor that usually makes it seem like the would-be comedian is just trying too hard) and there is an aesthetic to Seth’s humor that is inimitable and awesome.

The other thing I like about this site is that it challenges me to be a better Knick fan. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve loved them for most of my life now – when I was a kid, I used to watch every game with a notebook, and I would write down all my observations and analysis and then the next day I’d paste in the box score from the newspaper – but now the people here point things out that lead me to watch certain things more closely. It’s made me a better basketball fan and it’s given me a deeper level of understanding about our team, which is satisfying. So thanks y’all for that.

by Joamiq on Jan 16, 2012 12:57 AM EST reply actions  

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