Kenyon Martin is deciding between the Knicks and several others.
by Seth on Feb 1, 2012 9:43 AM EST
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PrintNoted fugazi Kenyon Martin is back in the United States of A after a few months playing ball in China. He's been working out in Los Angeles and Dallas and, according to this Marc J. Spears report (and reported previously by Adam Zagoria), is nearing a decision on where to sign. The Knicks have apparently expressed interest and fall on the list of "contenders" (I mean, sure) he's considering. Spears:
Kenyon Martin is expected to decide by this weekend which NBA team he’ll join, league sources told Yahoo! Sports. The Los Angeles Lakers, Los Angeles Clippers, Miami Heat, San Antonio Spurs, Atlanta Hawks and New York Knicks have expressed interest in signing the veteran forward.
Martin signed with Xinjiang Gyang Hui of the Chinese Basketball Association, but has since returned to the United States. He’s not eligible to sign with an NBA team until Xinjiang’s season ends, which could be as soon as Feb. 16.
Now, "as soon as Feb. 16th" is good and quite soon, but Martin is forbidden from signing with an NBA team until his old Chinese team's season has ended. As Jonathan Givony just twat, there's still a decent chance that Xinjang makes the playoffs and renders him unavailable until well into March. That doesn't seem fair, but I'm not one to trifle with China (nor Chyna).
Either way, Martin might not be the best-fitting China bro available. Wilson Chandler will probably demand more than New York's mini mid-level exception, but somebody like Aaron Brooks or J.R. Smith might offer some guard depth and shooting to a roster in need of both (though with Landry Fields finally playing like a starter and Baron Davis hopefully returning someday, it's not quite as dire a need as it was previously). Patty Mills? Someone else? Thoughts?
P.S. While we're on the topic, this Times article on the players (and basketball in general) in China is worth a look if only for the photo of an emo, thickly bearded Wilson Chandler. There are plenty of excellent Wil anecdotes in there as well.
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Because Chandler is technically an RFA, if we were to give him an offer and he signs it can Denver still match it?
i would think so (but im praying not) but i dont know if the same rules would apply because we’re in mid-season. I’m unsure if i would agree with possibly getting K. Martin. Not because of his attitude or anything but because whos minutes would he take? Jeffries, who does the little things like play D?? or Jorts, who if we got KMart for 1 year its ok cuz of Jorts wrist? ok well i think i kind of just answered myself there. Even after the 5-7 weeks left for Jorts he still has to get back into game shape shooting wise and that could possibly take another couple of weeks, depending on the schedule at that time. I guess i kind of swayed myself to pro KMart if we get the chance.
by blackhova on Feb 1, 2012 10:14 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Will Chil
Yep Denver can match if they want and I’m sure they would… I best chance would be getting Chandler in Free agency…
Its actually an interesting question. I'm not sure what Denver is allowed to do.
Correct me if I’m wrong but 1) in order to retain your RFAs you need first to submit a qualifying offer that makes up a cap hold; 2)The Nuggets’ salary cap is at $57,775,280 (according to hoopshype.com), which means they are slightly under the cap.
So since Wil’s qualifying offer was not calculated into their cap situation, and possibly was never made(?), could he not be now a UFA?
I’m not sure what the rules are, and how what kind of adjustments were made due to the lockout situation, but its an interesting situation…
pretty sure the qualifying offer has an expiration date
so basically, if he’s a rfa right now, its because the nuggets have already made the qualifying offer before the deadline for such a thing passed.
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personally
i like the idea of guard depth and quality shooters coming to the team. then playing small and shifting anthony to pf and stoudemire to center. but martin would hopefully supplant jeffries.
so… whatever, whatever.
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But..
At this point and time what is needed more, and I’d say quality shooters. JR Smith. I would have way more faith in JR then Landry at the SG position. We need scoring for when Melo takes a breather, or is out for a game or two. That’ll also move melo down to the post more when Stat is taking a breather… or taking off a few games. It’ll also keep teams from throwing double/triple teams like Miami did to Amare
we need a good dose of depth everywhere
there’s no wrong answer. but jr smith or brooks is probably our best bet. tough to say if they would give a damn about playing here for a pittance tho.
brooks’ team is like first or second in the chinese league standings last i checked. so they are poised to make the deepest run. smith’s team was in the middle if i recall correctly, and wilson’s was in the top five (of about 12-15).
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teams
From what I just read, K-Mart’s team is 1/2 a game out right now of being in playoffs, and JR’s team most likely won’t make the playoffs.
yea i last checked a good two weeks ago
and the middle of the pack was tight.
so its possible jr is the first to be able to come back. tho martin could be the first ready to sign.
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which is why Wilson is perfect!
3 position player and i’m sure he always brings the wings to the party that drive the ladies wild!
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by Lord Smackington on Feb 1, 2012 9:00 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
It would be weird to put a KMart inside the Garden
but I guess they could have blue light specials on Knicks paraphernalia and such. :)
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
On topic, though, I think he would help your squad by being an enforcer and a presence
Good counter to Amar’e’s tendencies, and we know KMart likes the NY area.
2011-2012 season prediction: 22-44
And I'm fine with that. One of the original leaders of the "Dwight Howard, not Nono Hilario" movement.
I see what ya did there
posi..tive ....thoughts..?
@krishhhayyy
by gymtanlandry on Feb 1, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah...
Yea I understand that enforcer and presence but we kind of have that with Ty Chandler already. As much as I hate the every switch we run on defense, the Knicks are currently a top 10 defense right now… We need another scoring threat. JR did tweet over a week ago that he wondered wat it would be like to play under the NYC lights. K-Mart will make things interesting tho…
Seth
did you post that “basketball prospectus” roundtable that you were a part of anywhere on P&T? It was an entertaining read while I’m at work!
You just got Tysoned!!!!!!
I def missed it
I just happened to stumble on it reading another article…good points all around by all
You just got Tysoned!!!!!!
I do not see
why he wouldn’t go to the Heat…
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and do what with his min.?
even coming off the bench either one of the two would have to play some 5 and that wont bode well for them
by blackhova on Feb 1, 2012 11:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Simmons seems to think....
….he’s a lock for the Clippers. And just when I didn’t think that team could be any more entertaining to watch….
by The Raging Platypus on Feb 1, 2012 11:53 AM EST reply actions
Neither is more Simmons.
Gotta remember, Mr. Platypus, that Simmons also “thought” LeBron was a lock for the Clippahs. Just churning up page views and representing the team he has season tickets with.
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by Thelonious Dunk on Feb 1, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Gold star!
Really tho, he’s a doof.
"It was one of those good, deep sleeps; you know, the ones where you wake up and a stream of drool is steadily racing down your shirt? Yes, that kind of sleep." -Landry Fields
by Thelonious Dunk on Feb 1, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Not a Needed Piece
K-Mart has seen better days. Also, it should be noted that every other team expressing interest has a winning record. I do not see this happening for the Knicks. But, the real problems of this team is its guard play. I am not sold on a single one of them as a long term starter in the NBA. Maybe, we will get lucky and get two decent rotation players out of the lot. Baron Davis is at the end of his career, and on any given day the rest of them might all be members of the gang that couldn’t shoot straight. J. R. Smith would be an interesting additon at shooting guard. However, is this team stable enough to handle his big ego? As a volume shooter, I do not see how you put him and Melo on the floor together and expect to see a happy STATT.
Assuming Wilson Chandler is not realistic
I would vastly prefer Aaron Brooks. He brings all the scoring pop of JR Smith with the added bonus of not being JR Smith. He’d be a more than capable 6th man or Baron Davis insurance policy.
I just like that Seth actually used Fugazi in a sentence.
You been watching Donnie Brasco again Seth?
Kenyon Martin/ Kenyon Fartin
what is it already? One day you guys want jared Jeffries sent to the Gulag, the next day you don’t want a guy who could sent him there. Now is martin Legit? Naw the guys has been stealing paychecks for years. But he does do a better imitation of an NBA player than Jeffries and several other Knicks presently on the roster.
I'd use it
When he airballs a 3. Wasn’t quite pooping from the corner, but just kinda…fartin.
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I say Call him the BIG FUGAZI!!!!!
or FUG for Short!
so you'd say kmart is...
sitting in The Waiting Room. I bet you he is humming 13 Songs.
by I know smart people on Feb 1, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
J.R Smith
Supposedly isn’t coming to NY. I think we should wait for Brooks, that is if he wants to come here. But seriously, it’s only a matter of time before the offense starts clicking. We have a thin bench and all that, but I’m optimistic about this team. We’re a decent PG away from beasting.
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any chance at all we get ill will back
he’d be perfect
Knicks would have a much better chance
Had they been playing better, but all those teams interested in KMart are in a better position than the Knicks so it’s really up to him if he wants to play in New York, but it will being that he wants to win a title at this point it will most likely be the Clips, Lakers or Heat
by Guess Who's Back? on Feb 1, 2012 2:33 PM EST reply actions
I'd be absolutely down for any of the China bros
Particularly Wilson, but that’s like a .82% chance of actually happening.
The thing I wonder with Smith or Brooks, is that they’re both offensive-minded folks who can create their own shot and score in bunches, but would they actually help the problem or only compound it? Neither are the best ball-movers and they tend to get pouty from what I’ve seen?
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Kmart has been pretty sluggish...
In the CBA when compared to other big names. If you don’t believe me, go check his stats.
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