Lin and TD
by Mdotpain on Feb 1, 2012 10:11 PM EST
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I just wanted to gauge folks' opinion of Lin. I've somewhat followed him from a distance since his Rookie season summer league games. I was impressed then with his creativity and athleticism and I'm impressed now.
Now the fact I'm posting about our third or fourth string PG might be more of an indication of my desperation for a bit of creativity in our stagnant offense, but I like to believe I'd still be vouching for the guy even if the Knicks were playing better. You be the judge of that.
In his limited role, during garbage time mostly, he's shown he has floor vision, a good dose of tenacity and aggressiveness. He's coughed it up here or there, but in those cases, at least from what I observed, those turnovers were due to him trying to be aggressive and break down the D as opposed to just plain dumb mistakes. And he hits the boards. I know its garbage time, but it should count for something, right?
Toney D... I don't know....He overplays at times, and when guys get around him, it's a foul or the help defender's man is open for a dunk or three depending on who's rotating. The guy tries and makes up for it in others ways at times on the defensive end, but I wonder if his reputation of a solid defender is preceding him now, when maybe it shouldn't be. Offensively, there's nothing I can say that hasn't been said already. He's not a PG, and his decision making is shaky.
Back to Lin. I cant pretend to know more than our coaching staff. They see him in practice; they want to win. If he helps their chances of winning, he'd play, right?
I'm not sure. Our experiences in the real world tell us that sometimes loyalty and hidden agendas don't allow folks to get their fair shake at an opportunity to prove themselves. But then again, I don't see what goes on in practice and Lin didn't break the rotation in GS behind Ellis and Curry.
Also, I never took into account what what written about AR. I never understood why he didn't get more of an opportunity on a Knick team that wasn't too big, couldn't board or D last year. Seems like Lin, at the very least could be a change of pace player off the bench, but I'd like to believe there are legitimate reasons way beyond me for why that hasn't happened.
That's it for me. My patience for blogging via an IPAD has run thin.
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Makes good sense to me . . .
But if you ain’t one of Dantoni’s “boys,” then history has shown you are pretty much chained to the bench forever.
by TheKnicksAreBack on Feb 1, 2012 10:20 PM EST reply actions
Who are Mike's boys and explain why those supposedly chained to the bench deserved playing time
Cuz I’m starting to wonder if you’ve watched games before the Melo trade. Otherwise you’d have remembered the wonder of guys like AR on the floor, who definitely will never be called AI because the I never entered into his game when he was on the floor. I know your cranky on the state of the Knicks right now, but I’m more than a bit fed up with the myth-hugging a lot of people cling to cuz they don’t like Mike. Players earn their playing time by being useful, being smart and earning a role in the O like Shawn Williams did, like TD did pre-injury last year, like JJ does for all his deficiencies, We clamored for Novak and all he did was prove why he doesn’t get as much playing time. The doghouse is a myth.
by screamedia on Feb 1, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Novak has the highest 3point percentage on the team
and Lin has the highest PER. So I guess that proves something, but what I am not sure.
I hate losing more than I love winning -- Billy Beane
Rautins played in 5 games last year
for a total of 24 minutes. He didn’t produce anything, but you can’t say he was given a real shot. I remember MDA saying that he was getting better all the time in practice, really starting to impress at the end of the year. Though I especially understand the reluctance to play him after the Melo trade, he really didn’t get much of a shot.
The other players who couldn’t seem to crack the rotation last year were Mason and Randolph, though again it was probably for good reason. Of course, beyond STAT, Felton, Thrill, Gallo, Landry, and TD, the Knicks didn’t have many players worth playing; and TD wasn’t as good as we remember either. People like to criticize that trade a lot because it made Denver a complete team and, they like to say, it made us incomplete; really, it just kept us incomplete, but gave us a different look and players not trained in MDA’s system or to play with each other. We might be better suited so far this season had we kept them, as we could’ve spread Melo’s contract around to acquiring more depth, but I would still say that this core can take us farther than last years version. Nothing too serious against Landry, but I always wished we could have added him in place of Gallo or Will the Thrill (or Felton in retrospect, at this current moment in the season).
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Ask Marbury, Robinson, Curry, Randolph, Rautins, Novak, and Lin
if it is a MYTH and they will tell you a Dantoni Doghouse is very real.
by TheKnicksAreBack on Feb 2, 2012 8:25 AM EST up reply actions
And Darko is playing pretty decent now that he is out of the Dantoni doghouse
by TheKnicksAreBack on Feb 2, 2012 8:33 AM EST up reply actions
Umm
Darko is stinking up the joint in Minnesota. Do you still watch any basketball or just spout your opinions?
Bite your Tongue
Darko is beasting in Minny Haha, with his five points and 4 rebs a game. After all a mouse is a beast right? Wanna Know how bad shit is for Darko, the other night he got Dunked on by STEVE Blake, that is right STEVE BLAKE!!! I didn’t even know Blake could dunk!
Darko probably just told his friends he got dunked on "by Blake"
hoping they would at least assume it was Griffin.
Sorry Flossy, didn't know you were the Opinion Police . . .
Hopefully, you will just let me off with a warning this time.
Webster defines “decent” as satisfactory, adequate or sufficient in quality.
Last year, after his stint with the Knicks, he played 24 mins, got 5 boards, 2 assists, 2 blocks, 1 steal, and 9 points.
I think that meets the definition of “decent.” You popped a gasket like I said “at an All-Star level” or something.
You gotta watch that blood pressure man, I want you to live a long and decent life!
by TheKnicksAreBack on Feb 2, 2012 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
you go hang your hat with that colorful bunch of crappy bball players
(although I have been impressed with Lin and bet his PT will increase).
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
Marbury
is out of the league entirely, Robinson got benched in Boston and OKC as well, Curry has played fewer minutes this year than Jeremy Lin, Anthony Randolph is borerline retarded and is playing 12 whole minutes per game for the T-Wolves, Rautins is not an NBA player anymore.
The fuck are you talking about, seriously?
Flossy, you need to take a deep breath, and slowly breathe out . . .
In and out, in and out, imagine yourself on a beach with the ocean waves all around, breathe in and out . . .
Now that you are in your happy place, let all your thoughts leave your mind until the only thing that remains is the sound of the waves as they crash on the shore . . . .
Now listen as a voice from afar says “he was just making a list of players that have been on Dantoni’s shit list in the past” . . . .
“Whether for real or just reported in the past” . . .
“Trying to defend every player in the league is too much for anyone to try to tackle alone” . . . .
“Players in Dantoni’s dog house in the past . . . "
Breathe in . . . and back out . . . .
by TheKnicksAreBack on Feb 2, 2012 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
your opinions
shouldnt be so wrong
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Feb 2, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Read about Lin some today
and watched some video of him from the summer league when he was on Dallas, and crappy video of him on Harvard. Looked even better when he had lots of confidence. Had a hand in all the shots John Wall was attempting in the summer league. Hit some deep 3’s. Managed some dunks.
Talk about not getting a fair shake though, in high school he was one of the top 5 players in California, and yet got not athletic scholarships or guaranteed offers, only offers to walk on. UCLA coach would later say that he would have absolutely started for him. He led Harvard over UConn in one particularly awesome game in college when he scored 30 and grabbed 9 boards. He put up arguably the best numbers ever by an Ivy Leaguer, and if he had played for UCLA with similar numbers then he would have definitely been drafted. He is apparently 6 foot 3, 200 pounds.
It would seem the biggest thing working against him is his ethnicity, as nobody expects him to even be a basketball player, yet alone a good one. There is a story of him showing up for a game and his coach, who hadn’t yet met him, told him that they didn’t play volleyball there.
He isn’t as flashy as say John Wall, though if you youtube him then you will find plenty of nice plays, but he has led his team beyond expectations everywhere he has been and has a reputation for being very humble – which, imo, means teachable and willing to work harder than anyone. I wonder how he would be perceived had he just walked on at UCLA, or later transferred, and how much better he would be now having played against better competition in college. I just hope this kid gets a fair shot, if not here then somewhere. If not soon, then he should go to Europe or China to start so he can finally have a chance to truly impress people.
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Nice bit of insight
On a side note…..watching clips jazz On TNT….is that a Jamal tinsley sighting??? Jeremy who?!?
Lin in limited minutes
has 28.4 PER. Off course that comes down to earth if he gets more minutes, but has 6.7 PER in 23.4 mins per game. Lin would have to be atrocious and completely incompetent to be less valuable than Toney Douglas. The PG position is already bad, why not experiment with lin by giving him more minutes and maybe you can find a nice role player. Lin can potentially be a decent back up PG. In the D-league/summer league clips i’ve seen, he can shoot the ball has some decent passing skills and knows his role..something out current PGs fail to show.
6.7 PER would mean he played worse than a dead man!
Dude you might be able to look good in D-League games. Morris Almond averaged 30 pts a game in the D-League a couple of years ago. Who? You say? Exactly!
he played in 1 D-League game, no one is talking bout him in the D-League
drop that shit already
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Hey played most of last year in the D-League!
He has played in more D-league games than NBA games. So I see no need to drop it. The Kid is a D-league player.
by Robert Curre on Feb 3, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
my b, shouldn't have assumed he stayed on the bench in GS last year
but the rest of what you said is not true. He has 21 D-league games and 37 NBA games played. The 1 this year is what I was talking about. Last year he played in 20, but played 29 games for GS.
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
A good post...
And whether he does it well when the starters are out there is TBD… but his inclinations are exactly what we’re missing. Head up dribbling looking to dish and move the ball… penetration with willingness to attack or swing the ball out… good laterals on defense staying with his man.
TD’s reputation is what it is… but we’re losing and rep shouldn’t overpower possibility at this point. I agree that the possibility of Lin, given the state of our Knicks and Baron showing either a lack of urgency or health, has earned him some meaningful minutes. He might kill with Melo and Stat demanding all the attention.
Good laterals on Defense?
really now, Did Dragic do what he damn well please with Lin on him, pretty much. Now you want to test his laterals, let’s throw him out there against Rose tonight. NOW would be hosting a take back the night March after the Damn game if D’antoni did that!
yes...
and dragic is absurdly quick. not shut down laterals (but who does in this league?) but good, and better than TD has been showing.
by bucketsncents on Feb 2, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
go to youtube
watch Lin vs Wall, he had a hand in all of his shots. Get over the fact the Knicks played him in 1 D-league game
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I am just talking bout the one-on-one matchup of him vs Wall
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
you don't try to impress in the summer league?
the announcers are talking bout how Wall skipped the ESPY’s to go practice for this game, a summer league game
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
The thing with coaches is they aren't as smart as you may think
Sure, they probably know more plays, history, drills, and technique than you can imagine. But they’re also men with big egos, dealing with other men who have big egos and a lot of talent, plus dealing with management’s desire to play their own highly drafted players.
It’s tough to tell the most talented guy he’ll be sitting, even if his play is killing the team. It’s tough to tell a guy you trust, who came through in the past, that there are better guys now. Most coaches give playing time based on their gut. The ones who are actually adaptable, intelligent, and with good front offices, tend to do much better. Look at the Mavs, Thunder, or Rockets. I doubt they’d ever want a guy like Beasley. Meanwhile, he’s hurting the Timberwolves almost daily.
In GS Lin played behind Curry and Ellis
like you said, so it makes sense he didnt get that much PT….here, he is behind TD, that’s it….until Diddy finally gets back that is. I would like to see him get more time with the other starters, it would be nice….I know Novak was off the other night, but he still has a career 44% from downtown…there (could be) weapons on the bench that are not being utilized fully…I don’t know about “dantoni’s doghouse” but he does tend to shy away from certain players that probably could contribute in some capacity.
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Novaks career numbers came mostly in garbage time. Jason
You Know when no one is really out their playing defense. Guys on both teams are trying to just not get hurt and pad stats. You saw he got in there for meaningful minutes against Miami and Houston with the game on the line and basically wet his pants when he was being guarded by real NBA players who were actually trying to play defense. The coaching staff sees these guys every day in workouts practices and such, they have far more information than we do about how good a guy actually is. If Lin was raping Shumpert and Douglas in practice he would be starting. If Novak was outplaying Walker he would be playing ahead of him. Coaches want to win and if they have evidence that a guy is not playing is better than a guy who is, guess what that guy gets playing time.
again tho he's the best pure shooter on the team
but maybe your right , maybe it’s not worth it putting him and Lin in because that would require a little bit of (gasp) coaching and making adjustments. Look obviously Noak isn’t gonna overnight turn into a prolific scorer, or Lin turn into CP3, I think we ALL know that, but the coaching staff needs to try something different because the gameplan that they are drawing up now is not working. But I get it, forget adjustments, forget about the bench, let’s just wait for Baron to come back because we all know he will be the savior. And if Baron doesn’t work there is always next year…. right?
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Talent level is subjective
Nobody knows anything. Especially our coach who knows even less. The logic here seems to be that because Lin is not playing he must suck, therefor, he will not play. Just to prove that point we will throw him out there against DRose.
I hate losing more than I love winning -- Billy Beane
Boy you are really gonna love it when Phil is coaching the team next year
When the scrubs of the month don’t play, because frankly they are scrubs. Really Novak and Lin are on this team because the Knicks could not afford to sign anyone better. Just remember Adam Morrison never saw the fucking court in LA even in garbage time, why because he was a SCRUB! Now what are you gonna say when Phil refuses to play some scrubs you got hard ons for, doesn’t matter, Phil’s answer will be the same he gave Bill Reiter last year when asked why he wasn’t going deeper into his bench, “Billy I have how many championship rings again? How many pulitzers have you won? Maybe you should be worried about becoming more qualified at your profession, and stop worrying about my coaching since I think I know more about my job than you know about yours.” I am gonna love it. Phil is gonna out Riley pat Riley. You remember jason everytime Pat Riley got outcoached in the playoffs, when the media dared to critique his decisions, He hid behind his Rings!
again alot of noise
but has nothing to do with dantoni not finding playing time for other players….who’s talking about Phil Jax?? and who he will or will not play? Let’s cross that bridge if and when we get to it….let’s think about the present…
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By the way When San Antonio could buy 5 pts off their bench in the playoffs last year
Why didn’t Novak get burn? Afterall Pops is a real coach who makes adjustments correct? Geesh just admit you were wrong. You ignore the fact that D’Antoni played him, and forget adjustments the one fucking thing Novak was supposed to be able to do he couldn’t do when he got on the court with Real NBA players. But Of Course that is D’Antoni right. maybe he should have gone out there and taken the shots for Novak, since he couldn’t hit the side of the fucking building when someone actually was playing defense.
There's that inarguable circular proof again
He didn’t play so he must suck. and because he sucks he doesn’t play.
I hate losing more than I love winning -- Billy Beane
Yep kinda of the way it works
Coach sees you in practice and says Geesh what were we thinking this guys sucks. Gets desparate enough to put you in the game for real minutes and you stink up the joint. Coach concludes he sucks, let me not play him or at least play someone who sucks less.
That is not exactly what is happening with Lin
He may suck it up in practice, we will never know. But when he gets in the game and has the best production on the team you discount it because it is garbage time.
I hate losing more than I love winning -- Billy Beane
Well, Garbage time is very different than crunch time
to be sure. I mean, Lin got 4 assists in 6 minutes in garbage time. You wouldn’t expect him to get 24 assists in 36 minutes.
But 12 would be nice. I’d like to see what he can do with Amar’e.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
and why are you comparing SA to the Knicks???
SA had the best record in the west last year and Pop played 10 deep…they didnt have any NEED for Novak, but to fill roster space….they had shooters on the team. Admit when YOUR wrong…our situation is totally different than SA last year…are you really trying to make that a point…if NY was that good now, and our bench that deep no one would be talking about Novak or Lin…are you kidding me
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I should mention
Many players might suck in certain situations and thrive in others. Often, with guys that have never made a consistent dent in an NBA rotation for a year or so, there’s this assumption that they must suck. And I think coaches make this assumption sometimes too. But in many cases, a guy just hasn’t found the situation where his skills are needed. In the case of Lin, I think it’s possible a team has never really needed him until now. I would say that pretty much every team in the NBA has a point guard better than Jeremy Lin on the roster. Many of them have two guys better. The Knicks have no one better. And I don’t think he’s ever really gotten a chance to prove what he can do.
Novak, well, I don’t think the Knicks need his 3 point shooting so much that they need to play him and cover for his deficiencies as a player, because I think their problem is much more that their 3 point shooters are not getting enough good, in – rhythm looks, and, combined with lockout rustinesss and the resultant lack of confidence, they’re sucking right now. But getting Fields and Douglas in the downtown groove is a higher-reward scenario than giving Novak a lot of minutes at this point.
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Novak has sucked in every situation he has been in.
Hel he was cut by Rick Carlisle. Carlisle plays 12 deep every game. Really if you can’t get minutes for Rick Carlisle you SUCK! And if Jeremy Lin has participated in one NBA practice he has had a chance to prove what he can do. If Lin was roasting Douglas and Shump in practice. He would be starting and playing 40 mins a night.
by Robert Curre on Feb 3, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
I agree that Novak is not any kind of answer
But I believe Jeremy Lin can play better at point guard down the stretch of a close game against a good team better than Toney Douglas can, if given some reps to get used to that situation.
Maybe my belief is irrational, but I feel it.
Practice is not a high pressure situation. The 4th quarter of a close basketball game is. I see Toney wilting, and it’s fucking terrible. Even if he is a more skilled and athletic player and destroys Lin in practice, if Lin wilts less than Toney, Lin should play, and I don’t think D’antoni can know until he gives it a two or three game try.
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Tony is a bench player now.
It has been over a month since he has been in a close game down the stretch. 10 mins to go in the 4th is not the stretch, the last 4 mins are if you are talking about close games. And frankly neither Lin or TD need to be anywhere near the court at that stage of a game.
And D’Antoni is out of games to try my friend. He needs wins and if he doesn’t get them we can then debate Mike Woodson’s rotation because that who will be making the decisions. Frankly D’antoni is playing bench players too many mins. None of these guys deserves the mins they play, except for the fact that the starters need to rest sometimes. Watch All 5 starters might very well go 40 mins tonight even though it is the 2nd game of a back to back and they all played a ton of mins. against Chicago.
It's true that none of our bench players provide anything of use...
except rest for the starters. I do believe we’d be much better off having hungrier guys on the bench than the veterans we have. At least a hungry guy plays with energy and can disrupt or annoy the opposition. Guys like Bibby and Novak literally bring nothing of use, and you can throw Bully in there due to his wildly maddening inconsistency. These 3 are wastes of contracts and space.
by bucketsncents on Feb 3, 2012 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
Weak bench play and could not buy a perimter basket in the playoffs last year
Bonner and crew couldn’t hit the side of the building against memphis. Yet Pop the Great never once said, I got Novak I will put him in. But not once did he even look at the guy. And Guess what Memphis sent their asses home in the first round. Maybe he should have played Novak. And again D’Antoni gave the guy meaningful game still in the balance minutes against Miami and Houston and he basically sucked! Yes are bench is for shit. But that is what happens when you have 3 guys making 50 mil. You can’t get studs to fill out the bench. It will probably take a could of years using the MLE to get a decent bench. But for now, let us please stop acting like a career D-Leaguer and a career garbage time player are any kind of long term answer to shit. Maybe Novak comes in and hits a three now and them. Playing him 15 mins a night will not get you production. Maybe Lin can come in when things are really stagnant and get things moving. Play him 23 mins a night. Nope. D’Antoni starts doing that. he really should just take my suggestion and quit. Because basically he has already given up.
by Robert Curre on Feb 3, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
see my reply below
SA bench averaged 30 pts a game in playoffs against Memphis….that wasn’t the problem. I don’t know where you get “couldn’t hit the side of a building” nonsense…and AGAIN no one is saying Lin or Novak is the answer….but they may be able to contribute to THIS team given their options currently on the Knicks bench….not talking about SA, not talking about GS or Dallas Rob…the Knicks
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Most of those points were scored by Neal
And my point to you is WE DO NOT HAVE NBA CALIBER BENCH PLAYERS BECAUSE THIS IS THE KNICKS. None of these clowns deserves the mins they get except that the starters have to rest sometimes. Instead of figuring what scrub to play over what other scrub, if D’Antoni was doing his job, he would be figuring out how to get away with playing these guys as little as possible. Really, do you honestly think the players on our bench could beat the Bayhawks easily? I do not! actually they might not be able to beat Syracuse on a good day!
You are correct
D’Antoni shouldn’t be trying to figure out how to play one player over another. He should actually be, like you say, adjusting in a way to let his best players play as much as possible.
However, D’Antoni shouldn’t give up on the bench players. Okay, we know they’re inexperienced, but if D’Antoni knows what to do, he should be focusing a bit of his attention more making the bench play better. From a few Knicks Now interviews, it seems that some of the bench players don’t get attention from D’Antoni at all, and is only set up at practice like dummies for starters.
I’m pretty sure great teams doesn’t always have the greatest bench at all times. It’s about training the bench to play better, working on team chemistry, and being able to execute plays.
Eddie Lee Wilkins once scored 27 points and had 17 rebounds
and three blocks against Moses Malone. Chris Duhon had a 20 point 22 assist game remember. Even bad NBA players are capable of playing like all stars in a given game. Now we will see about Lin, but one game is not definitive proof of much other than he had a great game.
Boy that Lin is SUCH a scrub
let’s not even think about playing him again
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You guys are funny.
He had a great game. give him his props. But let’s be realistic people.
yea let's be Rob!!
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You definitely should be.
You would be alot richer and a lot happier!
by Robert Curre on Feb 7, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
that doesn't even make any sense....
but…ok…
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you want to be me well if you were you would be alot happier person!
by Robert Curre on Feb 7, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
You should just stop talking now.....
maybe until the so called “scrubs” stop producing….
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What kind of beer you like Jason
I’m buying
I don't drink beer buddy
Don’t have to get sensitive internet tough guy, just because you were incorrect on a FEW things….just enjoy the Knicks
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and just to humor you
cause I don’t talk out of my ass, even tho SA got handled last year by Memphis, they averaged 30 pts off their bench. So they could buy more than 5 points off the bench….again, diff from NY’s situation
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One thing that coaches do tend to show
One thing that coaches do tend to show is loyalty to the guys that have been around a while. And Toney’s been with D’antoni the longest, and you know Toney has always been a good soldier. D’antoni trusts him and wants to believe in him.
In contrast, Lin is a guy they signed after training camp – hasn’t had time to practice much and D’antoni doesn’t know him and to some extent must think of him as an end of the bench player that got cut from another team. Who knows, his race may work against him, too. He may not be a loud talker or a squeaky wheel. He’s also not a great three point shooter. But I do think he’s more likely to keep the offense in a good flow than Toney is, and I think D’antoni is on the cusp of realizing that.
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so dantoni's a racist!!!
lol…Just Kidding….
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Well we are all probably racist to some degree
If we were given the choice between two guys, one black and one chinese american as our point guard, and if we didn’t know anything about either one of them, I’m pretty sure I know which one we would pick. That’s racist I think, although most of the time we would get it right,.
I hate losing more than I love winning -- Billy Beane
That is not true.
Ramon Sessions comes in here and he is starting Fuck Douglas and Fuck Shumpert. Luke Ridnour gets traded here and he is starting the minute he gets off the plane. Coaches are not that deep.
im going to fly to boston and strangle TD if i see him doing the same shit he always does – pick up rondo at half court on a hard press and then be beaten off the dribble within 1.5 seconds
You forgot
the part where he fouls from behind!!!
I missed the first half
Working late….Walt mentioned Lin played well in the first half….then why is TD in now? Lins stats don’t show anything too special…intangibles? Can someone explain.
active, constant motion, good penetration, hit the boards...
layups will drop with a little more consistency… 100x better than TD
by bucketsncents on Feb 4, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
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