Knicks 100, Timberwolves 98: "We just stole that one."
by Seth on Feb 11, 2012 11:16 PM EST
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PrintLike DangerZone said, the Knicks just pulled off a heist in Minnesota. A badly short-handed lineup finally seemed to catch up to New York's performance, as they played from behind almost the whole way and looked out of it several times. But after Kevin Love and Nikola Pekovic led the Timberwolves to 57 percent shooting, a massive rebounding advantage and an eight-point edge in the first half, a combination of tighter Knick defense and horrid Minnesota shooting prevented the Wolves from running away with the game in the second.
Jeremy Lin, looking visibly exhausted, played a solid first half but hit a wall in the second half against the best defense he's faced so far. Ricky Rubio and friends gave him all different looks, trapping him, forcing him left, and preventing him from getting clean attempts in the paint without giving fouls. They forced Lin into one-for-many shooting and a ton of turnovers in the latter two quarters, including a lot of nice drives that ended with short-armed shots or not enough lift to draw contact. Kid was beat, and he played like it.
In Lin's stead, the Knicks got massive contributions from Landry Fields and Iman Shumpert. Fields did wonderful things driving diagonally and finishing right at the rim in the first half. Shumpert, after bad shooting and boneheaded plays early on, came up with some massive drives and pull-up jumpers later on. His mismatched strip of Kevin Love followed by a pull-up jumper the other way was crucial, putting the Knicks up one with just a minute and change remaining.
Actually, in a game that got pretty hideous in both directions, the Knicks executed pretty nicely down the stretch. The Knicks fell back down by three following all that Shumping, but ran a perfect two-for-one possession with over 30 seconds left, as Lin hit Steve Novak for a spot-up three-pointer to tie it. After that, the Knicks hassled Ricky Rubio into consecutive turnovers, hit a couple of free throws (missed some, too), and benefited from a bad final shot by Kevin Love.
'Twas a surprisingly gritty end to a magical run of wins without Amar'e Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony. For once, the Knicks were on the winning end of a "tale of two halves" type game. Minnesota missed one big shot after another, and the Knicks hung around, hung around, hung around, then struck and snatched a win in the final two minutes. Definitely not familiar ground, but a welcome departure from what we're used to.
New York's got two much-needed days off before they play in Toronto with Amar'e back in the lineup. Rest up, gentlemen!
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hiyah?
really?
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Feb 12, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Knicks fans shouldn't be driving tonight or tomorrow
Its the equivalent of DWI
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
Iman Shumpert is a first ballot hall of famer
a point guard within a point guard within a taco bell within a kfc, its Linception
by metseaglesknicks on Feb 11, 2012 11:23 PM EST reply actions
Quibble:
NO END TO MAGICAL RUN OF WINS EVER
Rose decides not to go 1-on-2 and I was thinking, "what are you doing?! You've got the numbers!" -Zach Harper, Daily Dime Live
We may be over .500 by this time next week
Let that soak (l)in
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
Iman Shumpert is a first ballot hall of famer
a point guard within a point guard within a taco bell within a kfc, its Linception
by metseaglesknicks on Feb 11, 2012 11:25 PM EST reply actions
Playoff speculation again finally
when we played the Nets, we both were 8-15 I believe. They’re 8-20, having lost 5 straight. We are 13-15, having won 5 straight.
Bucks lost. 8th seed in the playoffs. Yay!
Knicks could end up in top 4
got no problem believing that
Yeah but the Nets don’t have Jeremy Lin.
by superturboultra on Feb 12, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone notice Tyson yell at Lin when he was calling a screen
He seemed kinda tired of them near the end of the game but I’m pumped to see Amare run the same play.
Ya Amar'e never gets tired of PnRs
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
Iman Shumpert is a first ballot hall of famer
a point guard within a point guard within a taco bell within a kfc, its Linception
by metseaglesknicks on Feb 11, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
understatement!
he hasnt had someone feed him on pick n rolls consistently all year! I beat he’s hungry for PnR! he’ll eat Jeremy Lin PnR for BREAKFAST
by DonMoosavi on Feb 11, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I can't wait for Tuesday
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
Iman Shumpert is a first ballot hall of famer
a point guard within a point guard within a taco bell within a kfc, its Linception
by metseaglesknicks on Feb 11, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah but he also doesn't really set picks
It’s going to be a completely different timing for Lin.
by superturboultra on Feb 12, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
Great point
Amar’e slips the pick a lot of the time so we’ll see if Lin can react fast enough to get him with the ball.
Speaking of PnR, Tyson and Landry have gotten pretty astute at running on that right elbow/ top of the key
KNICKS NOW
http://nyknicksnow.blogspot.com/ - check it out!
by WSD on Feb 12, 2012 11:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I didn't watch the game
But was following it on my phone. Down the stretch, I was calm. I just thought they were going to pull it out.
Going up one on Shump’s shot, and then going back down 3, then getting a Novak three and gutting it out, that was some fine stretch play, just looking at the back and forth of it.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
After Tyson got called for an offball offensive foul with maybe 3 minutes left I felt like I lost hope they were gonna pull it out. Then Shump hit a big shot and I started getting that feeling again. When Shump hit the shot to take the lead I felt pretty sure they’d win.
c'mon we're the Knicks
we always seem to lose these games. This is so refreshing!
by I know smart people on Feb 11, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
mike woodson
gotta give him a lot of credit
In the end, we all lose. Except some people.
for what?
The switching was the reason for all the poor defensive play, and they had no answer for Love or Pekovic. Give credit to Adelman for taking out Pek like an idiot, and going with 3 PGs.
have to say the switching was at its worst for a while
for a serious chunk of the game chandler was on rubio/ barea. incredibly frustrating to see, especially when some of the screens were not even proper screens. ridiculous.
Could the switching be to save energy on D ?
Lin was shot for the entire 2nd half & it wouldn’t be surprising if the other players were also tired. Switching and living with the results as long as the score stays close seems to be the strategy.
We've moved back into the 8th spot in the EC on this 5 game winning streak.
Let’s keep our foot on the gas!!!
by 9th Wonder Buckshot on Feb 11, 2012 11:37 PM EST reply actions
Wonder if Phil Jackson is still expecting a call?
by I know smart people on Feb 11, 2012 11:39 PM EST reply actions
hey, now it's a call he might actually consider taking
we’re not hopeless anymore, and there’s young talent
I don't think Phil cares about young talent, he cares about top notch talent
Still, now with Lin this team is completely wrong for him.
Extend D’Antoni!
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
Does anyone think we could convince Nash to be a high MPG 6th man next year?
I know its a pipe dream, but could you imagine what he’d do for our second unit, hes basically playing with a second unit in Phoenix
only thing more overated and soft than osi umenyora is the 2011 eagles
Iman Shumpert is a first ballot hall of famer
a point guard within a point guard within a taco bell within a kfc, its Linception
by metseaglesknicks on Feb 11, 2012 11:39 PM EST reply actions
Suffering
The poor guy’s having an awul time in Portland. I feel bad for him. Before Lin emerged, I was kind of hoping Ray might return to the Knicks somehow.
He started off so well for Portland
But he’s really struggling now. Poor Felt
KNICKS NOW
http://nyknicksnow.blogspot.com/ - check it out!
by WSD on Feb 12, 2012 11:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Russ
I just watched that claymation snuff film you linked to in the game thread and… ugh. I guess Seth banned them for a reason.
I didn't watch it
I just posted it for counter-schtick.
__________________________________________________
"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
Yay! I got the recap quote!
I’d like to thank the New York Knickerbockers, Jeremiah Lin, Llamas all over the world (and to a lesser extent Alpacas), Seth, and a Fennec Fox name Chico.
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
It's perfect! I love it!
Just what I wanted! How did you know?
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
JR Smith comes back Wednesday
So pretty decent chance we can honestly be one of the deepest and talented teams in the league by next week.
Stat, Melo, Tyson, Lin, Smith, Fields, Shumpert, Novak, Jeffries, Baron and Harrelson when they comes back.
Only question is if Dantoni, Lin, and Baron can make this work….or just Melo to adjust a little
Knicks must maintain their defense
and Smith doesn’t play any. BD will be fine…. if he ever plays
Huh?
JR Smith actually plays some pretty good d. Here is Smith on Kobe.
Interesting write up
On why JR Smith would be a great free agent pickup for the Bulls:
Defensive Efficiency ratings for Smith and some others
Smith: 105.68
Melo: 99.0
Walker: 95.8
Douglas: 97.2
Fields: 96
Shumpert: 100.6
Amare: 100.8
(Lower #s are better.)
Shump behind Melo?
That must be a typo…
by superturboultra on Feb 12, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
no joke
melo’s been solid on man d this year.
Shumps been awesome out there too
much better than just a marginal improvement over STAT
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
Smith's a better shooter, but he has no conscience.
I think our problem is that, with ‘Melo, we generally have not enough shots to go around. That is not an indictment. ’Melo is a straight-up weapon, but he might not want to reunite with J.R. as long as Amare’ is suffering from under-use.
we signing him?
u sound sure of this.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
by semsemma on Feb 12, 2012 12:15 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
someone on the lakers blog
says that its a foregone conclusion that he’ll be a laker. cited an unnamed source.
/// aighttho.com \/// twitter.com/aighttho \
I am not sure of this
I just know that we offer him the most money with a pretty good situation regarding playing time. I think most of us agree that Landry or Smith off the bench is pretty nice
by michael28102 on Feb 12, 2012 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
"once I missed the first one I was fine"
LOL
Rose decides not to go 1-on-2 and I was thinking, "what are you doing?! You've got the numbers!" -Zach Harper, Daily Dime Live
Let's have a hand for STONE COLD STEVE NOVAK, everyone
KICK WHAM STUNNER another clutch three from deep
by Doug Chu on Feb 12, 2012 12:06 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
this is a game late, but I'm dead
It's tough being a Knicks fan. Being a Giants and Yanks fan is great though.
by King Henry the 2nd on Feb 12, 2012 12:12 AM EST reply actions 11 recs
kobe is just bewildered
a 1-2 combo + grinning and tongue displays does it.
"the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be."
by mindcontrolproject on Feb 12, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
NBA FINALS: NUGGETS V. KNICKS
I will go to my grave believing that if the Knicks had picked up Earl Barron before the 2011 Playoffs, we would not have been swept by the Celtics.
Wishful thinking
But no way Nuggets make it to the finals over a team like OKC
Not saying we're at their level (yet) but...
Do Chicago and Miami really strike fear in you like that? Those teams are beatable by our squad.
In Donnie we trust.
by $100M Contract on Feb 12, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
Miami is beatable, but only because they psych themselves out
We’re not really anywhere near as good as those two teams yet.
They're both beatable.
Not only by our squad either, by many lesser squads. Chicago has the edge on D, but I think we could beat both. Actually, I thought so last year too…and we proved it. Those two teams havent gone through the roster musical chairs that we’ve been through.
This Knicks team with a distributor is a problem. I’m not saying we’re there yet, I’m saying I like our upside. Both teams are pretty much as good as they can be without further bolstering their squads, IMO. We still have a ways to go and we’re playing really great team ball. I think with Amar’e, Melo, Biddy and “Dirt Strong” we will be golden. I’m not saying championship, but I’m not not saying it either.
In Donnie we trust.
by $100M Contract on Feb 12, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
Beating them in one game is one thing.
Beating both of them in seven game series to make the Finals? Only in our dreams.
well
it’s not impossible. I’m not a giants fan but in the playoffs anything can happen, and they are evidence of this
If you can beat a team once, you can beat them twice. And a third. And a fourth time.
Just look at the Grizz against the Spurs last year. NO ONE thought that team had it in them to beat that Spurs team but they did.
“Beating both of them in seven game series to make the Finals? Only in our dreams.”
I’m not saying we’re locks to win, no one is saying that, but to say we don’t even have a chance in a series is ridiculous.
In Donnie we trust.
by $100M Contract on Feb 12, 2012 5:47 AM EST up reply actions
I'm actually talking about a 7 game series.
But hey man if you don’t believe it’s cool. <3
In Donnie we trust.
by $100M Contract on Feb 12, 2012 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
I believe this team has the potential
to get to the point where they have a realistic shot of winning 7 game series against both the Bulls and the Heat to make the Finals. We are looong ways from that yet. Remember, the popular opinion on this site before the season began was that we had at least the 3 seed in the East, easy. There’s a big difference between having the talent and executing.
I have no desire to get ahead of myself with this team. One game at a time.
No one is getting ahead of themselves with the team.
I’m saying that the Heat and Bulls are not as unstoppable a force as you make them seem. Yes, we have a ways to go, I actually stated that very clearly in my first response to you, “I’m not saying we’re there yet, I’m saying I like our upside.”
The Bulls and Heat are as good as they can be IMO, and yes they are GREAT teams but we have a very good team too. I’m not declaring them champions, I’m saying I think we will give ANY team a problem in a 7 game series. You make it seem as if we have no shot at beating them and I’m saying the opposite, these aren’t the 96 Bulls with MJ, NO these are the 2012 Bulls and Heat and they have plenty flaws to expose.
In Donnie we trust.
by $100M Contract on Feb 12, 2012 5:36 AM EST up reply actions
Just for kicks.
Here’s the unbeatable heat, getting beat, and how.
http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/16980/the-hole-in-miami’s-defense
In Donnie we trust.
by $100M Contract on Feb 12, 2012 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
This is silly and unnecessary.
No one said the Heat cannot be beat. But it will take some masterful execution to beat them in a 7 game series, and the Knicks right now are nowhere near masterful execution.
Let’s work Amare back into the team, then Melo, then see where we’re at. Still a long ways to go.
yeah speaking of this,
I’m really really hoping Melo doesn’t decide to debut the same night as Amar’e. I want a week of Amar’e + New Team before Melo gets to work back in
by mp987987 on Feb 12, 2012 3:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I want him back
but I don’t want him to go back out with another groin injury – get healthy!
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
Unnecessary like a fox!
In Donnie we trust.
by $100M Contract on Feb 12, 2012 5:29 AM EST up reply actions
I think a better question is
at full strength are we beatable?
I hate losing more than I love winning -- Billy Beane
Not easily
With Melo and Amare both fully integrated, and all things being equal (all teams at full strength), NY is gonna be really, really tough to beat. Miami and Chicago are great, but it’s not obvious that they’ll beat the Knicks 4/7. It looks now like it would be a battle. But have to agree…. there’s a ways to go yet, and there will be unexpected changes along the way, no doubt.
Jaerd Jeffries
i think he hit two 15 ft jumpers Seth, I was looking forward to your animal references
I've been speechless the last 5 games
This team is showing some serious heart. When could we say that in the last ten years, besides the beginning of last season? Sure, Lin is great, and a true leader. But look at guys like Novak, Fields and Shumpert stepping up. Ridiculous.
it's beautiful
I love this team effort (almost) as much as the actual wins themselves. I like being proud of my teams’ character in sports as much as skill
oops meant prodigal son
my love for lin, fields, and shump have brought me home. i haven’t been this happy with a backcourt since harper and starks. even bought league pass today, and joined p&t
by jediLin on Feb 12, 2012 1:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
not to be that guy
but after the jazz game, i said that this game would be the toughest challenge for lin. rubio is the only pointguard he’s faced since getting significant time that i thought would challenge him on both ends of the floor.
he’s the first guy to consider forcing him left. no idea why that is. and just in general, rubio has solid defensive instincts, whereas, deron williams, devin harris, john wall, and derek fisher are sloppy defenders.
so yea, i’m psyched that we won, but i’m not surprised that we struggled against this team.
/// aighttho.com \\\/// twitter.com/aighttho \\\
Knicks struggled because they got no sleep
and the schedule just caught up with them. Most of the guys… Lin especially… looked exhausted. You can tell when shots start front-rimming all the time, and even bunnies don’t make it in…. tired legs. To me, that’s the reason this win is the most impressive. To be able to gut it out even when you’re dog-tired = championship-level attitude.
yeah, that was well called.
the Minnesota big men (Pekovic) also did a good job of getting to Lin early once he got through the screen so he couldn’t get back to his proper hand, and they did it without fouling.
I was pretty surprised by Rubio's defense
was my first good look at him on that end and he looked pretty solid not to mention I had no idea he led in steals.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Feb 12, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
linacity
its rediculous whats going on in new lin city……..unreal
what to do now football season is done......sigh.smh.wtf
HOLD ON WHATS DAT LIN-MANIA HOLDS THE CITY
jeremy lin will be a kool distraction until the nfl draft
Over the moon with the win tonight
I’m so happy for Shump, Landry, Novak, and Jeffries. All were huge, and today with Lin looking so great but struggling in the second half outside the last 40 seconds really, they had their chance to shine. This team basketball thing is just too much fun to watch. It’s so awesome how this season has turned on a dime, we got hope now, and hope is a powerful thing.
by Wilson Chandlerstick Maker on Feb 12, 2012 1:56 AM EST reply actions
You Know What's Funny/Ironic?
The Comments About Jeremy In Last Week’s Postgame Thread Against The Celtics…What A Difference A Week Makes.
Heh, indeed...
Although the Celtics game hurt (as any game does in which you give up a 12 point lead), I thought the Knicks looked decent in that game. The ball was moving around, and Lin spaced the offense extremely well in his limited playing time. Of course, then Douglas came in as the backup point in the second half and the spacing went back to shit because the ball wasn’t going anywhere. I still love Douglas, but geez that was bad.
Overall, the Celtics game was a stark departure from the Heat game one week prior to it. Holy shit, was that game awful. For most of the game, it seemed like Douglas and Shump were playing hot potato around the perimeter, unable to even get the ball past the 3-point line against the tough Miami perimeter D. Relying on miraculous Bill Walker 3s just wasn’t going to cut it, and even though the Knicks were leading at times during the 3rd quarter, everyone knew the Knicks were doomed to lose that game.
Compared to that dogshit Miami game, the Celtics game was a breath of fresh air…almost. In any case, the other fans I spoke to all agreed – the Knicks looked like they were finally turning the corner during that Celtics game. But who knew (especially without knowing that Melo and STAT would be out – RIP Hazell) that it would not only turn it around this fast, but that we would be getting our starting point guard in the process?
by urban analrapist on Feb 12, 2012 2:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Warriors Fan
Lifelong Warriors fan, thank god you guys have a real coach, you guys decide to give Lin a shot after watching Shumpert fails and fails playing outta position, instead we play Acie Law 15 minutes a game and Charlie Bell chips in 3 minutes
Shumpert is fine when he isn't play PG
In fact one of the reason this team has sucked up til now is that we keep trying to stick every one at Point whether it be Melo,Shump,TD,Bibby etc. Hell i was surprised we didn’t try tyson chandler at point at some point. Everyone one was on D’Antoni and mocking his system for a while ( i will admit i too had doubts) as just Steve Nash. Off course this is just proof that it’s the players failing to execute than the coach since Lin is running it fine despite having no camp and basically asked to come in on the fly.
Acie Law
well at least your coach didn’t decide to keep sticking with Shumpert till he loses his job, that’s what Keith Dumb did, let Acie Law play 40 games and let him average 15 minutes with 5 pts and less than 2 assists as the sole back up PG
by Lawrence9ers on Feb 12, 2012 2:58 AM EST up reply actions
glad for the encouragement
but I fear the next loss we take we’ll probably go back to wanting to trade him for Mark Jackson or scalping him….either one of the two. It’s not like Dantoni can have anything to do with these wins or something. Everyone knows the wins are due to the Isaiah shadow government with Phil Jackson calling plays in from Boca Raton.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Feb 12, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
The unsung hero of the Knicks, Steve Novak:
http://www.thewindyapple.com/2012/02/07/17-things-you-didnt-know-about-jeremy-lin/
by the_windy_apple on Feb 12, 2012 2:45 AM EST reply actions
no #1, no #7. we got #17
when amar’e and melo comeback, we’ll be twice as good!
by irfreak on Feb 12, 2012 3:15 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
damnit
that was supposed to be
no #1, no #7. no problem. we got #17.
when amar’e and melo comeback, we’ll be twice as good!
Rest and STAT next game
just what we need to keep Linning
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
I'd like to go 4-6 in the next 2 weeks b4 all-star break. i'd be very happy with that outcome...
by 9th Wonder Buckshot on Feb 12, 2012 3:57 AM EST reply actions
I look forward to the day when TD can step on the court and give us some big minutes
Hit some big shots and walk off the court with a smile.
I feel so bad for that dude. He’s gonna make me cry when he turns it around.
I just wish I knew for sure what it was, whether its the shoulder or the very serious unknown off the court issues.
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
It'd be cool if he had a game like Nate did
Against the Hawks where D’antoni finally let him out of the doghouse for 41 pts.
TD's not in the doghouse
He didn’t do anything wrong, he’s just struggling really badly. Whether its his shoulder, or offcourt issues, he’s definitely being protected and given time to try and regain his mojo
KNICKS NOW
http://nyknicksnow.blogspot.com/ - check it out!
by WSD on Feb 12, 2012 12:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Huge win
Couldnt get up and watch the game last night so only just watched it now.
Thought the botched Technical call where we missed the possession was going to cost us. Has any other team missed out on a possession two nights unning due to ref mistakes?
Shump and Landry were immense last night. And that three by Novak. Wow the guy must have ice running through his veins.
Enjoy your well earned rest knickerbockers. You deserve it!!!!
Enjoy your
Joseph Lin
Freshman BBall at Hamilton. Our J-Lin is going with his fam to see him play
When Stat and Melo come back
and they get fully integrated into the system the Knicks can maybe make a deep playoff run. This team could have easily gone the other way without the two stars in the lineup, but they have fought and brought the team back to respectability. Stat will probably make a seemless transition now that he has a setup man, the interesting case will be Melo and Landry. Can Melo play the role of a Paul Pierce? will Landry stay aggresive or will he defer again whem Melo comes back into the lineup? and one more thing, that PG be BalLIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
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