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Some Leftover Knicks-Timberwolves Notes and Links

Because I was brief last night, I just wanted to toss out a few more idle thoughts and some links from elsewhere on the cyberweb. So, some things:

Star-divide

- I think I mentioned this in passing last night, but as much as Ricky Rubio did a nice job of jumping Jeremy Lin on the perimeter or pushing him to his left, Lin still got plenty of chances to drive into the paint and create for himself. Once he'd penetrated, though, he came short on a couple open layups and, on other occasions, drove to draw contact but ended up just nestling in Nikola Pekovic's chest (which is sort of a misleading thing to say because Nikola's entire body-- including his head-- is a chest). While some of his struggles must be attributed to solid defense, a lot of those mess-ups came on plays we'd already seen him finish dozens of times. That's where sore, tired legs seemed to be a factor. With more energy and greater lift, more of those inside finishes would have dropped and more fouls would have been drawn in the paint. Or at least that's what I'm telling myself this morning.

- It was a treat to see Landry Fields post up Luke Ridnour a few times. He got the ball poked away at least once, but also finished the play once or twice by turning quickly toward the rim for an easy attempt. If he can draw the mismatch, that's a terrific way to employ that bulk he added over the summer.

- Like I said last night, Shump took some bad shots and committed a couple of awful fouls in the first half (the totally useless backcourt slap of Kevin Love as time expired in the second quarter was the most damaging), but was the guy making shots-- including some finished layups!!!-- in the fourth quarter until Steve Novak stepped up. There was also one play in the second half worth mentioning in which Shump took the ball coast to coast without every actually possessing it. He knocked it away from someone at the opposing three-point line, then prevented Minny from regaining possession by repeatedly slapping the ball off the floor (not dribbling) and jumping high to tip it further down court. After three or four slap-bounce-tips, the ball had reached Minnesota's basket and he finished calmly at the rim.

- Speaking of Novak stepping up, you can read about that simple, perfectly executed play here. Part of the beauty of that set was that the Knicks got a shot off very promptly, thus leaving the Wolves with more than a shot clock remaining and too much time to play for the last shot.

- Jared Jeffries made two long corner jumpers in the third quarter. Elsewhere, in the North Pole, an infant harp seal suddenly found itself in need of oxygen. It frantically searched for a hole in the surface ice and eventually found it, only to be plucked from the water and devoured by a hungry polar bear.

- Jeffries and Shump spoiled around half a dozen Minnesota possessions by slapping the ball away from a Minnesota big when mismatched on the block (and make no mistake-- even if he starts at "power forward" Jeffries getting backed down by Kevin Love is a mismatch).

- I wonder if Shump would consider walking on his hands and handling the ball with his feet? It probably wouldn't work, but I think it's worth a try.

- I'd forgotten about this, but the Knickerblogger recap reminded me: The Knicks got boned out of yet another possession because of referee error. Jeremy Lin drove to the basket and a whistle blew right before he missed a shot. The whistle, turned out, was a (reasonable) technical foul call on Tyson Chandler for getting too rowdy with Pekovic. The T-Wolves got their free throw, and then...the ball. Whatever the Knicks were doing before Chandler got the T was negated. Not really sure how that makes sense, but let it be known that the best way to defend the Knicks is to irritate Tyson Chandler into wanting to throttle you.

- This was the second consecutive game that the Knicks won despite missing crucial free throws down the stretch and shooting terribly overall (13-22) from the stripe.

- I worry just like everybody about how willing Carmelo Anthony is to blend into this freshly free-flowing offense, but let's not pretend like there haven't been some iso possessions in all the wrong hands. We saw Steve Novak shooting turn-around fadeaways and Bill Walker and Jared Jeffries trying to create off the dribble last night. Lin can't create everything for everybody all of the time, and that's one of the many ways in which Melo can help. A good motto for the fully-staffed for the Knicks would be: "We don't always go iso, but when we do, we prefer that Carmelo Anthony go iso". Or something.

- Novak is a fairly bad defender and quite prone to losing track of the ball when he ought to be helping, but we did see him snatch some nice rebounds in traffic, so that's good. He has at least 1.5 dimensions.

That's it for the moment! Just wanted to flesh out what was kind of a bare recap last night and keep the discussion goin'. Hope y'all are having pleasant, infection-free Sundays.

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oh man!

the benny hill shump shump exeprience was a truly wonderful thing!

i don’t know if folks remember, but wilson chandler’s early games for the knicks were marred by good looking jump shots that somehow didn’t go near the basket. and drives to the rim that were so athletic and artistic and then suddenly lame. i think its only a matter of time before we start seeing shumpert really zone in. might not be this year. but he gets it. and he will get there.

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by stingy d on Feb 12, 2012 11:02 AM EST reply actions  

great comparison

and that was my favorite play of the game! Shump looked like a man possessed!

We took time with Wil, and he rewarded us. We should do the same with shump. More teams should take time with players, in general, it seems.

I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."

by gbaked on Feb 12, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

somewhat off topic

but this idea is why I wish there was a legit minor league bball system with the NBA.

I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."

by gbaked on Feb 12, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

it's sorta gravitating to that

the Bayhawks are like our official minor leauge team, know what you mean tho, been hoping for that for a while

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by Lord Smackington on Feb 12, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Shumpert will be a better player than Chandler. His physicality will be too much for opposing guards to handle, once he gains some experience. Chandler was more of a three, dealing with bigger opponents.

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by rxmeister on Feb 12, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

i think shump will be better too

chandler struck me as a decent defender, but shumpert’s on ball d is incredible for a rookie.

by patrickm23 on Feb 12, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

tough to say

i think they will both amount to borderline all star players. you can never discount the path one takes. shumpert’s potential seems higher, but you know. i have a hard time parsing thru which guy is clearly better.

the way a player fits with a team and a coach and even a city can make a break a career.

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by stingy d on Feb 12, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

True
the way a player fits with a team and a coach and even a city can make a break a career.

This is an underappreciated aspect of the player’s development.

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by fuhry on Feb 12, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

D'Antoni seems like a good coach for Shump

His defense is already insane, but his jumpshot can improve, and I especially like him as a second ball-handler out there with Lin or Davis if/when he comes back

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by WSD on Feb 12, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes and yes

That possession was hilarious and awesome. Somehow once the ball started bouncing around, you just knew Shump was going to be the one to end up with it. Athleticism + determination + good instincts = win.

And yeah, time is underrated. There’s too much pressure for immediate results (especially in this town). You give talented guys time and direction and a positive culture, they’re going to figure out how to maximize those talents eventually.

by Joamiq on Feb 12, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I was out of breath just watching that play!

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by WSD on Feb 12, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Beautiful play

I didnt know hustle could give me a boner

You're not a diehard fan if every now and then your team doesn't try to kill you

by Bigknickle on Feb 12, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually--Giggly female T and A should be ur primary focus

They may have to come up with a diagnosis for men who get errections watching extraordinary basketball moves. Maybe they could turn it into a pill to compete with Viagra

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by murderhill on Feb 12, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought shump should have gotten 3 steals

in that sequence. At least that’s the way it looked to me.

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by YuckFou on Feb 12, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Lin took 24 shots last night. That’s way too many, yet he wasn’t being selfish, it was just because there was a lack of options for him. The return of Stat and Melo will certainly solve that problem. There should be a happy medium for all of them.

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by rxmeister on Feb 12, 2012 11:17 AM EST reply actions  

True

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by fuhry on Feb 12, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

any minute now dziedzic is gonna burst thru the door and...

blather on about how you’re exactly right, but that we need to fire the coaching staff to fully realize our potential.

it all breaks down into cliques…

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by stingy d on Feb 12, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed lin and company plays good despite dantoni

what to do now football season is done......sigh.smh.wtf
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by bins12 on Feb 12, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

you agree with dziedzic

your username is “bins12”.

bins12.
bins12.
bins12.

got it. thanks for your input.

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by stingy d on Feb 12, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

We must trade JLin now while his value is high

OMayo is available. Yes, get D’Antoni and his looser staff out of town. If we are lucky CLaetner and Tripuka might agree to take their jobs.

I love the Knicks twice as much as you so piss off.

by dzeidzik on Feb 12, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Man I wouldn't trade Jeffries for Mayo

that guy is not a very good player

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by Prevenge on Feb 12, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

or, probably more condemned-ly, I wouldn't trade Novak?

yeah.

Rose decides not to go 1-on-2 and I was thinking, "what are you doing?! You've got the numbers!" -Zach Harper, Daily Dime Live

by Prevenge on Feb 12, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

You do realize

that the post was not from the original dzeidzic. Spelling is different.

by YIK on Feb 12, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

... I thought there was something fishy with it but wasn't sure what

eh.

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by Prevenge on Feb 12, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

that's confusing

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by astromets on Feb 12, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Note

The picture is of Leonid Breshnev, I think.

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by fuhry on Feb 13, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought the lost possession was when a technical was called on Rubio

As Lin was driving toward the basket. Lin was fouled, but the technical was whistled first.
For some reason, after the technical FT, the ball was given to the Timberwolves even though the Knicks had possession last.

There was a technical on Chandler, but that was just a regular ole technical.

by Mikel L on Feb 12, 2012 11:27 AM EST reply actions  

Yup, I'm pretty sure the tech was on Rubio

Which made it feel so bogus to me – we were all like ‘yay, FT and then we get the ball back’ but then the second part didn’t happen. I’d really love to hear the explanation on that. So if you need to limit the Knicks to 1 point any given possession, commit a tech while they’re driving for great success, apparently.

by Joamiq on Feb 12, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. And we missed the free throw....

So it was a complete loss and we basically got punished for Rubio getting a tech. Last 2 games have had some truly awful officiating.

by robk on Feb 12, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

The most annoying part about the Rubio technical and not getting the ball back

Was that minutes later after a timeout, Speero Dedes (or however it’s spelled) said that the ref acknowledged a mistake.

Uh, yeah, thanks ref, but can we get our possession back?

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by WSD on Feb 12, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

To be fair, it's EXTREMELY rare for a ref to ever admit any type of wrongdoing in the NBA.

I can’t actually remember another ref ever doin it. So props to Workman for that. That is the only thing he gets props for though, since he was pretty bad otherwise last night.

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by GAx on Feb 12, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

What was annoying

was that Lin appeared to draw a foul right after the whistle was blown. Maybe I am just not thinking, but when would possession of the ball and a technical against the other team ever lead to the other team getting the ball after the FTA?

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by astromets on Feb 12, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh man

Can’t wait for Stat to come back. A rested Knicks team plus Stoudemire? Look out Toronto. And I’m half elated, half terrified at the fact that I fully expect the Knicks to win that game.

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by moose35 on Feb 12, 2012 11:36 AM EST reply actions  

Bargnani is out too

He usually kills us.

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by rxmeister on Feb 12, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Terrifying

The idea that the Knicks may actually be good, and that they will be expected to win games. As Knicks fans we know how quickly things fall apart but this time it feels like its for real!

by Mr. 2 on Feb 12, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Sometimes, that is the biggest problem

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by astromets on Feb 12, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

I mean, it could easily go the other way, and I always keep that in the front of my mind but when I look at the sched and see us playing a struggling team I like to try and count it as a win. I’m sure those same struggling teams do the same thing with their schedule but obviously things don’t always work out the way we want em to.

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by Lord Smackington on Feb 12, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly

By Saturday, we might be on an 8-game winning streak! Of course, you can never discount any team, especially with the Knicks this year, but in terms of records and such, the Knicks have 3 pretty winnable games this week

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by WSD on Feb 12, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Wasn't it the 1970 or '71 knicks

that had the 18 game win streak? They should be able to dupLINcate that.

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by murderhill on Feb 12, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure

But in 1994 they had a perfect March.

by superturboultra on Feb 13, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Please just stop now....

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. That never works out…

by robk on Feb 12, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course, you can never discount any team, especially with the Knicks this year

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by WSD on Feb 12, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Novak's "1.5 dimensions" talent

is awesome! but give him credit for getting in the paint for the last few games…

don't bully me, i am from the D(etroit)!!!

by wanderboy on Feb 12, 2012 11:58 AM EST reply actions  

he actually has good hands

that goes a long way toward corralling boards. and altho he doesn’t juke anybody, he can move in one directional with good balance and coordination, so, altho his timing isn’t necessarily great, he can still get boards with regularity, i really like what i see from novak. also, he’s such a better shooter than anybody on the team.

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by stingy d on Feb 12, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

They needed a three late,

They got it to him and he nailed it. The guy just flat out did his job. You’ve got to like that.

Did you read the Chandler interview, where he told Novak, “I’m going to get you an open look”. He knew if he set a good pick, Lin would get him the ball.

That’s basketball right there. One guys a good ballhandler and passer, one guy’s a good pick setter and one is a good shooter. They work together and Bam, three points.

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by fuhry on Feb 12, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

yea i think that was the d'antoni post game presser

but yea, guys gotta step up in the early parts of the season, otherwise they won’t be ready when the season is on the line.

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by stingy d on Feb 12, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you see that pick of Love?

Chandler completely blocks him and then takes a few steps with him allowing Novak plenty of time and space

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by astromets on Feb 12, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Novak d

there was one play in the laker game I remember when novaks guy had the ball by the corner 3 point line trying to juke and work him down and Novak simply slapped the ball away off his guys leg w/o commiting a foul, knicks ball. i think he makes a few subtle plays like that every time u see him in there. good hands + good smarts..with that jump shot i can deal w him being less than pippen on the defensive end.

by jediLin on Feb 12, 2012 12:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Novak's rebounding has been average, which is better than I expected from him

11 total boards in the last 2 games. And his defense isn’t that bad to me. I don’t recall seeing him give up any terrible buckets to Love or Beasley when he defended them.

Basically, he should replace Walker in the lineup when Melo is healthy

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by WSD on Feb 12, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

If we can get average rebounding from Novak and slightly below average defense

I’ll be very happy.

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by Russ on Feb 12, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

It would be great if he played a little more D

but as it stands, I don’t see how he doesn’t remain a rotation mainstay. I’m usually not a big fan of PER, but it’s useful for gauging efficient production (which makes it somewhat helpful for assessing role players whose role is to… efficiently produce, rather than creating dynamic effects on the rest of the team).

Novak’s PER last year and this year: 17.8, 16.9
Walker’s: 11.3, 8.4

On top of that, when you consider their dynamic effects… Novak spaces the floor, making things easier for the team’s main weapons, and only takes a shot when he’s got a good look resulting from ball movement, which keeps the offense in rhythm. Not only does Walker not convert 3s at a high enough rate to effectively space, but he often takes shots early in the shot clock, stunting offensive rhythm. As long as the matchups let you hide Novak defensively, I don’t see how on earth Walker can play ahead of him after Melo and Amare come back.

by Joamiq on Feb 12, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

walker also likes to drive

and novak will never barrel into the lane recklessly like that. if he doesn’t have a shot- pretty much right off- he passes it. that seems like obvious to the point of being stupid, but it makes a huge difference.

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by stingy d on Feb 12, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

Granted, Walker is more effective when going to the hole, but that’s really what we don’t need what with Amare, Lin, Melo, Chandler, and Fields all also being better going to the hole, and all being as good or better at it than Walker. And you’re totally right – Novak is smart about when he shoots. He’s pulled the trigger prematurely maybe 2-3 times this whole season.

by Joamiq on Feb 12, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Walker can be effective going to the hoop

But he rarely converts. He’s lost some of his explosiveness, so he rarely dunks or finishes a layup, and his stupid floaters never go in.

His defense and rebounding isn’t that much better than Novak’s to have him ahead of Novak in the rotation

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by WSD on Feb 12, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Bully's decent at a lot of things

But the only thing he’s really good at is fouling guys hard. That’s not nothing, but Novak has one skill he’s exceptional at, and within a team framework, that’s something you can use to put pressure on the other team.

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by fuhry on Feb 12, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he did better than I expected on defense actually

he actually put forth some hustle and effort, and even though he doesn’t have the tools to D up most people I think he did his best which is all I really ask for at this point.

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by Lord Smackington on Feb 12, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Totally

Novak’s not going to make a name for himself with his defense, but I think it has to be recognized as passable. And a stellar shooter with passable defensive skills should be getting real playing time.

by sisterray24 on Feb 12, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

To be honest

His on the ball and off the ball defense is probably better than Amar’e’s, or at least less A.D.D. He’s not going to block shots or anything, and he can be posted up pretty easily, but when he’s out there I don’t necessarily see him as a liability

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by WSD on Feb 12, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't go that far, you could be right

but I think they’re pretty much on equal footing defensively and if anything I’d rather Amare because he’s also capable of some weak side shot blocking.

They’ve both impressed me on that end though. Novak because I thought he was totally inept in that dept and STAT because I’ve seen improvement and effort from him defensively. Not saying he’ll win any awards or even that he’s solid on that end now, but it looks to me as if he has been trying to provide solid effort, he just has this habit of picking up early fouls and then everyone seems to know that’s the time to attack him because he’s trying to avoid that 3rd. Now he definitely needs to get that under control but it is understandable to me.

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by Lord Smackington on Feb 12, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Amar'e has impressed you with his D?

He seems to want to play better and he seems like he cares, but I think he’s been pretty awful this year. He falls asleep off-the-ball and his coomunication on siwtches has been pretty bad. He’s not even really blocking shots like he was last year

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by WSD on Feb 12, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm rooting for the guy too, but

Amar’e’s d really has been a liability. It’s his weakness on d that has kept forcing Chandler to come over and help, leaving Chandler’s guy completely open.

I hated on Jeffries plenty last season, but his defense these last few games is a large part of the reason that Chandler’s been able to do his thing (at least when he’s not in foul trouble). Jeffries deserves a lot of credit for the improvement in the Knicks’ rebounding and team defense these past few games.

by sisterray24 on Feb 12, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

100% right but...

despite his D being a weakness I don’t think it’s lost us too many games, if in fact any at all. The biggest problem up until now has been the offense. I don’t think STAT has been getting abused to the point this season that it has cost us games. At least not that I can recall right now.

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by Lord Smackington on Feb 12, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Can't recall either

Yeah, it’d take a lot more work than I’m willing (or able) to do to figure out whether Amare’s defense has cost us games. But here’s a quote from Chandler that, without mentioning STAT by name, basically implies that Stoudemire’s been screwing up Chandler’s defensive game — while saying that Jeffries has been making everything a lot better for everyone on defense:
“I love having Jared on my side,” Chandler said. “His communication, coming in and out of timeouts, telling me what he’s seeing out there. I know he’s somebody that I can rely on. Also, I don’t have to help as much. When I can key in, like tonight, on Bynum and that’s it, I’m going to shut people down. When I get in trouble is when I have to help other people a lot, and I come over and my guy already has the ball in scoring position.”
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/11335/jeffries-and-chandler-coming-together-on-d

That said, I agree that the biggest problem has been the offense, not the defense. But it sure helps win games if you’re better than just-below-average at defense, which is what the Knicks have been so far.

by sisterray24 on Feb 12, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice find

Kind of disappointing words because it seems to basically call out Amar’e, but whatever. Even with Amar’e we’re still pretty much a top 10 defense.

I think Amar’e can play individual defense OK and he’s obviously a good weakside defender. But he seriously has ADD. If the action is too far away from him, he becomes a spectator and his man sneaks away from him. Likewise in PnRs and on switches, his communication and understanding of what to do is terrible

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by WSD on Feb 12, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Ny weakside defender I meant his ability to block shots

When he’s on the weakside and not contesting shots, that’s when he usually goofs up by losing track of his guy

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by WSD on Feb 12, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

No doubt

I mean, Amare and Melo are gonna be getting playing time — D’Antoni’s just not gonna bench either of them in favor of Steve Novak and Jared Jeffries. So no need to rush to their defense — their jobs are safe. (Unless they screw up the offense we got going this week, in which case who knows what D’Antoni will do. But there’s no chance that’ll happen, right?)

But I think that Chandler’s not just talking shit when he’s complaining about Amare’s defense. Amare just doesn’t have the higher level defensive IQ to hold his own in a lot of situations, such as whenever there’s a switch. He’s an excellent shot blocker (at least he has been; this year, not so much), but I feel like that’s a bizarre result of his getting out of position and then catching up just in time.

As long as Amare is on the court, the interior d is going to be weaker. Hopefully, that will be outweighed by his contributions on offense. And it’s good to know that there’s some solid defense (Jeffries) and scoring potential (Novak) waiting on the bench.

by sisterray24 on Feb 12, 2012 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

that's one of those things I admire about Chandler

he holds himself as well as everyone else accountable but lets not get crazy, everyone knew Amare’s game including Chandler and he chose to accept the challenge. The fact that he could cover up Amare’s defeciencies had to be part of the reason we went after him.

So while Jared has been more than great im my eyes, I still gotta recognize overall Stat is still the better player, he’ll be in the line up and everybody involved will have to adjust.

i think we’ll be fine though

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by Lord Smackington on Feb 14, 2012 1:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

let me rephrase

I’ve been impressed with his effort, at times he seems as if he’s lost but I ’ve noticed as a whole he is much better this year in comparison to last year when EVERY forward he went up against had a career night against him.

Again, I’m not saying he’ll ever sniff an award on that end, just that he’ looks to me as if he’s trying.

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by Lord Smackington on Feb 12, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed on that

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by WSD on Feb 12, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Novak's D looks ok to me

I don’t see the problem that a lot of people(Seth) are talking about. Defense is pretty difficult to judge, especially on tv, but I have been trying to pay extra close attention whenever the ball is in his neighborhood, and frankly, I just don’t see the problem.

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by YuckFou on Feb 12, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Racial Profiling?

We see a tall geeky looking white kid with a good 3 pt shot and automatically say
Slow footed
No defense
cannot rebound
High BB IQ
I would urge everyone to watch him play. I don’t think he is nearly as much of a defensive liability as some people are making him out to be. I saw a couple of deflections in the Minn. game plus some pretty aggressive rebounding.

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by YuckFou on Feb 13, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

2 things...

Even given his slump and personal problems or whatever is going on with TD, wouldn’t you rather have him out there than Bibby???

And as much as it pains me to say cause I like him and I think he has lots of skill (that he doesn’t necessarily use), Bill Walker’s gonna have to lose his rotation spot when Melo comes back.

by robk on Feb 12, 2012 12:15 PM EST reply actions  

i'd rather have toney than bibby

but i think d’antoni’s right in giving him time off. make sure when he gets back, he’s hungry.

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by stingy d on Feb 12, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

This

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by WSD on Feb 12, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

Walker’s not giving them enough. I wonder if he’d be more effective as an undersized 4.

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by fuhry on Feb 12, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

He's too comfortable jacking up 3s that don't go in...

Like to see him use his athleticism more and attack a bit.

by robk on Feb 12, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

No, I personally wouldn't, not right now.

Bibby misses shots, but he doesn’t screw up entire possessions. He’s usually launches those 3s when there’s not a whole lot of time left on the shot clock and he’s open. TD’s doing bizarrely weird stuff that prevent an offensive possession from even developing. And his D hasn’t been very good this year.

After he gets his head straight… then yes, I’d rather have TD.

by Joamiq on Feb 12, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

douglas' ineptitude

leads directly to the melo iso conundrum

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by stingy d on Feb 12, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

When he plays at PG

I wouldn’t mind giving him 5-10 MPG as a SG.

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by moose35 on Feb 12, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's what I mean...

Bibby is usually in with Shump anyway so have Shump play point and TD play 2. Bibby just seems like a placeholder at this point- no defense, a 3 once every few games.

by robk on Feb 12, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed with you both

but still… toney needs some time to unfunk his self.

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by stingy d on Feb 12, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

right on his nose

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by stingy d on Feb 12, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe if he gets cut on his chLin

He will re-invent himself. but I agree, he’s dead weight on this reincarnated team

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by murderhill on Feb 12, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

unless he plays an instrumental role in the

locker room or at practice…then yes his days are numbered.

by I know smart people on Feb 12, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't get this.

He’s clearly OK with being stashed at the end of the bench, so what’s the point of cutting him?

by Joamiq on Feb 12, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

because a sack of potatoes is also good with being stashed at the end of the bench

but at least the sack of potatoes doesn’t miss every shot it takes

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by Prevenge on Feb 12, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Anti-reasoning wins the day

by paxon on Feb 12, 2012 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Do people really think

that after shooting .435, .416, and .431 from 3 the past three years, his .286 in 19 games this year is more representative of his true shooting abilities? This is the kind of thinking that loses fantasy seasons, people! I’ll be very surprised if he shoots less than .400 the rest of the way.

by Joamiq on Feb 12, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

agree

why cut him. we have ONE TRUE pg besides Bobby.(bibby is who he used to be when he was good) bobby is a security blanket who can control the rock without turning it over and can still falsely keep teams honest at the 3pt line.

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by semsemma on Feb 12, 2012 7:16 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

interesting point

and hope for the Melo issue as he returns

by I know smart people on Feb 12, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

honestly i hate bibby on the court

but bibby sitting on the bench is one of the more supportive and genuinely happy dudes i’ve seen in a while. humpty-esque

by jawnie on Feb 12, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Conspiracy Theory here

Some time last night Lin had:
6 Rebounds
6 Assists
6 Turnovers

Also known as to many of us, the number of the Beast.
Did some more research into it and in the Book of Revelation it states: The first beast comes comes out of the Sea by the power of the Dragon.
Lin emerged from the D-League from the Erie Bayhawks also close to Lake Erie
This is the year of the Dragon
:O

by chumpy on Feb 12, 2012 12:38 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

hi steve novak

good to see that you made an account here! you hit some sweet threes last night.

by latrell chokewell on Feb 12, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha

Steve Novak’s beautiful mind. I love that feature.

by Joamiq on Feb 12, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

well played

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by GAx on Feb 12, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

This needs to be in the next Pre-Game Reconnaissance.

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by moose35 on Feb 12, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Give Lin credit for driving the ball into the teeth of the defense near the end.

That took a lot of courage, knowing he would get clobbered for it. It was like a Rocky movie, he came out swinging at the end. Awesome ending, because it was a team effort. Shump and Landry played great.

It’s funny, when Lin has an off half. He still ended up with almost a triple double.

by Malorkayel on Feb 12, 2012 1:11 PM EST reply actions  

or to put it another way

He wasn’t having a great game but he still gave them a chance to win by having balls and making solid plays at the end.

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by fuhry on Feb 12, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Not To Get Ahead Of Myself But..

You Know How Most Pundits Say “You Need At Least 1-2 Superstars To Win In This League” ?? Well, In The Past Week, We’ve Played Like A Team Who’s Really Good But Could Just Never Get Over The Hump In The Playoffs. With STAT And Melo Coming Back, We HAVE Those Superstars And I Think, With A Dedication To Chemistry Building, The Sky’s The Limit For This Squad.

by Vinny Chase on Feb 12, 2012 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

interesting title

how long is your book going to be?

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by stingy d on Feb 12, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Go for it!

As Lin keeps saying this isn’t all about him. The Knicks bench really proved themselves this week.
I’m now more than comfortable with a second rotation composed of Harrellson, Jeffries, Novak, Shump, and — until BD gets better — Bill Walker. None of these guys is going to be winning any awards this year, but they have already made substantial contributions to winning games. With Lin leading our starting lineup to functionality and a bench that can play like this, there’s really no limit to what these guys can do.

by sisterray24 on Feb 12, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope people remember that

Lin has become a major contributor the last few games, and that’s an understatement, the thing is he is very in the fact it isn’t all about him. Team was coming together prior to his emergence and still, his emergence is everything we needed.

All in all though, he is just doing what his job is, he’s being a PG. Something we wished and hoped some of the other guys on this roster could do but they just couldn’t. I’ll be the first to say at this point I was wrong about TD, I thought he’d get it. Maybe he will someday but right now he doesn’t whatever the reason, that doesn’t mean he doesn’t or can’t have a place here.

If our winning ways continue, Lins words and attitude should be heeded and we should all remember these are team victories with Shumpert and Jefferies and Novak all chipping in. When Amare and Melo return lets react with cool heads however this turns out and just give things a chance to work out for a change please. If we continue winning with them it won’t all be because of Lin and if we start to lose it won’t all be on Amare and/or Melo.

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by Lord Smackington on Feb 12, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I Agree Vinny

They Have Played Well With Lin’s Emergence Coupled With Role Players, Glue Guys, And Chandler. When Amare And Carmelo Come Back, We Get To See If We Have The Star Power And Chemistry To Be A Championship Contender.

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by LatrellSprewell on Feb 12, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

i heard that

your shift key is pressing charges for assault. better hire a good attorney!

by latrell chokewell on Feb 12, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Lin not only looked physically exhausted, he looked mentally exhausted

When you’re really tired and out of breath and not getting rest, you begin to feel light-headed and your legs get noodly, as Clyde says.

I think this is exactly what was going on with Lin. He couldn’t get his shots to fall, but in terms of his mental exhaustion, he made some downright silly passes, and he could have gone to the line or got open looks simply by stopping in the lane, and throwing a headfake and going up with the ball.

Fully expect he’ll be back to his Linny self on Tuesday

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by WSD on Feb 12, 2012 2:29 PM EST reply actions  

Most of his misses were short

Telltale sign of fatigue, whether he will admit it or not. Great players will try to play through anything, coach’s job is to make objective decisions. Coach should’ve rested him in the 2nd half as per normal even when Lin said he was ok. D’anotni admitted as much in his postgame presser.

by znk916 on Feb 12, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it just me or is Jorts the perfect person to guard Kevin Love

I look forward to seeing this next year

Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump

by DangerZone on Feb 12, 2012 2:43 PM EST reply actions  

man Shump traveled on like every dribble though

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by Prevenge on Feb 12, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Beautiful

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by WSD on Feb 12, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

"Man. Crazy. Chalked him."

yeah, that’s my Shump.

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Look at it Dave. Look at it.

by GAx on Feb 12, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

dunk that!

thank you

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by Rorschach44 on Feb 12, 2012 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm really not sure how I feel about that.

He’s battled through a shit-ton of dumb flukey injuries already in this short season, but in the process made himself look really really really bad.

I just don’t know.

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by GAx on Feb 12, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

If Melo comes back healthy he will make this team amazing.

He is not an idiot that doesn’t know how to play with a PG, and I believe he has not played with one as good (at being a pure PG, at least) as Lin may be.

by SweatbandProliferation on Feb 12, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

People are making a bigger deal of it than it is

Melo is not a cancer to his team. Even last year with the trade stuff, he still played pretty well and the Nuggets were a playoff team. They played better without him for many reasons, but of course it was good to get all that drama out of the way.

Melo has been a good teammate here and has been supportive and cheering for Lin while sitting on the bench. Sure, there will be times when he holds the ball too long, but overall, he’ll probably get a lot more catch and shoot opportunities with Lin, and he’ll also help Jeremy out by allowing him to score because no one’s going to help off of Melo.

Lin’s scoring has been great, but with Stat and Melo back, I’d be perfectly happy with 10-15 points a night with 8-10 assists. That would actually be amazing.

The fact that people are worried about Melo is silly. He’s not Allen Iverson or Gilbert Arenas or any other knucklehead focuses on solely on getting theirs

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by WSD on Feb 12, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it will just be more motivation

People have short memories. Its crazy to me how people say Melo is a selfish player, not a good teamate or whatever. Lin proves that all the Knicks needed was a decent pg and for everyone to mesh and get back on their A games

by m3llofan on Feb 12, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

i know people expect melo to dominate the ball again

but really, lin’s still gonna run the show. except now we’re gonna have melo getting that side pick and roll, that dribble hand-off, the drive and kick threes… instead of billy walker.

so, uh, that’s gonna make the knicks really freakin’ good. my only worry is that melo is gonna rush back again. get healthy, broski.

by latrell chokewell on Feb 12, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Man, I think we should forget about Baron . . .

I just have that feeling that he will:

A.) Never make it on the court this season

B.) Make it on the court briefly and re-aggravate his back

C.) Make it on the court briefly and injure something else

I propose that we excuse TD for however long he needs to get his off court issues resolved.

Then we hopefully get the old TD back and he can run the point for a few minutes to give Lin some rest.

I actually feel that the odds of TD getting his shit together are better than Baron getting healthy enough to make an impact.

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by TheKnicksAreBack on Feb 12, 2012 4:51 PM EST reply actions  

there's no need for a rush to judgement on either of those guys

your feeling about it can be limitless in any direction, but the fact of he matter is- we don’t know whats up with baron, and toney doesn’t know whats up.

if time heals all wounds, eventually both guys will be back and we can have lots and lots of toys to play with. and baron will make the jeremy lin look like a solid backup point guard that could start on a lot of teams.

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by stingy d on Feb 12, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I am basing my TD theory off of that little tidbit I read yesterday . . .

From The LoHud Knicks Blog:

“A well-placed source within the Knick organization tells me that Toney Douglas is not in coach D’Antoni’s doghouse and is not injured. The reality is that Toney is dealing with some serious and ongoing off-court personal issues, and that is likely the primary reason for his inexplicably poor play this season.”

That could be total BS of course, but it would explain his catostrophic decline.

If we could get last year’s TD back, with our current Linsanity, that would be some sweet, sweet depth right there!

Get well soon TD!!

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by TheKnicksAreBack on Feb 12, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

weird

thats too bad. i’m just going to assume its true. i don’t read lohud knicks blog too often, but when i do it seems credible and open minded, so i’m inclined to believe it for the time being. hopefully its nothing too serious, and he can get through it.

because despite his troubles of late, he is well liked in the knicks community.

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by stingy d on Feb 12, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

There could literally be thousands of "off-court personal issues" . . .

But I am praying for the classic divorce/cheating wife/caught cheating by wife, sort of thing.

You know, one of those “time will heal all wounds” sort of thing.

We’ve all been there, it fucks your head up for a month or two and then you find a new chick and forget all about it and return to normal!

THAT is my hope for TD.

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by TheKnicksAreBack on Feb 12, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

yea thats probably the easiest to comprehend

yet hardest to let go of.

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by stingy d on Feb 12, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

It would certainly explain how a professional basketball player . . .

Apparently forgets EVERYTHING he has ever learned about the game over the off season.

I was kicking around the drug angle too, as in TD got himself addicted to something in the off season.

As you can see, I put WAY too much thought into this shit!

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by TheKnicksAreBack on Feb 12, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

if i was a gambling man

(and i am a gambling man)

i would bet mental disorder. depression is one of those things that can hit anybody, you know? or maybe with all the talking in the third person, toney has multiple personalities kickin’ around in there, and right now he’s tapped into the one that can’t shoot a basketball.

i keed, i keed. whatever it is, feel better toney. deep down, we all still want to DWTDD.

by latrell chokewell on Feb 12, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

That is certainly a possibility as well

With all that damn money Dolan has, can’t he hire a full-time Knicks psychiatrist??

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by TheKnicksAreBack on Feb 12, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Deep down?

I openly admit that I miss Toney! He’s a great dude and fun to watch when he’s playing well. He’s handled the bench well and it’s nice to see him get up and cheer guys on going into timeouts, but it’s also sad to see.

I miss TDDWTDD. I don’t like watching TDForgettingHowToDWTDD

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by WSD on Feb 12, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I honestly think

its his shoulder that has hurt the #1 thing he does…shoot. the pg role, well…he’s never been consistent at that. but St least we know his role now and we can use him based on his skill set instead if damaging his credibility to wear a knicks uni by forcing him to play outside his comfort zone

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by semsemma on Feb 12, 2012 7:13 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Baron is too good to just dismiss

It might very well be true that he never contributes to the Knicks. We do not, however, know that this will be the case.

If Baron is able to recover, we just need him to play 15–25 minutes per game. Imagine always having either Lin or Baron running the offense? Every single second of each of the 48 minutes of every game. That makes the Knicks a much more imposing team to play. That’s the type of team that can make a real run in the playoffs, and with a little bit of luck, take the whole thing.

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by Russ on Feb 12, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey Russ, I wonder if Baron would be willing to come off the bench . . .

And relieve Lin? That could get very interesting if he gets healthy!

Would he accept the fact that he is past his prime, and acknowledge that he could help the team better by coming off the bench?

Does Baron’s pride make him say, “I was running a team when Lin was in diapers, ain’t no way I am backing him up!”

There are so many little subplots with this team, like the ones I just mentioned, and how Melo and STAT are going to mesh.

I swear the Knicks soap opera-like drama is what keeps all of us coming back year after year for more.

Stay tuned for the next episode of: “As The Knicks Turn.”

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by TheKnicksAreBack on Feb 12, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

he did in cleveland last year.

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by stingy d on Feb 12, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

True, true, but I think one of the reasons he decided to sign with the Knicks . . .

Was because he was virtually guarenteed to be the starter when he got healthy.

Of course, things have radically changed since then!

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by TheKnicksAreBack on Feb 12, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

another was to play for d'antoni

but of course, everyone seems to be calling for his head, even though all the players love the guy

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by stingy d on Feb 12, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

the lesson, as always

fans of noo yawk teams are idiots. almost as bad as, like, philly fans or something.

by latrell chokewell on Feb 12, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

It will definitely be interesting

To see how the Baron Davis saga unfolds.

However, that is in the future, we have much more immediate concerns:

ie.) STAT and Melo joining the LINsanity very soon.

I just hope they do not return at the same game. That would rock the LINsanity boat WAY too much.

In my ideal world, STAT returns on Monday and has a week or so to blend in to the new, Lin Knicks.

Then once STAT is seamlessly integrated, along comes Melo and the process repeats.

Hey, a guy can dream right?

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by TheKnicksAreBack on Feb 12, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

yea mayne

I wonder too bow he feels about Lin breaking the scene. because he was told he will start once healthy. I’m sure he’d understand with the way Lin is playing….right?…..right?! maybe coach will tell him he has to win that spot once healthy. and he comes out with his nuts low and kills it at the point.

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Feb 12, 2012 7:19 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Jeremy Lin is our starting Point Guard from now on

There is simply no way that Baron walks in and changes that. Aint gonna happen and I doubt if Baron expects it.

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by YuckFou on Feb 13, 2012 3:04 AM EST up reply actions  

i wouldn't mind baron coming off the bench at this point

he can absolutely keep the second unit humming if he can get healthy. but i understand if he started too, just in terms of like, having him warm up, only to sit down for the first quarter is the type of thing that could just keep a balky back off kilter.

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by stingy d on Feb 12, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Correction

A good motto for the fully-staffed for the Knicks would be: “We don’t always go iso, but when we do, we prefer that LINSANITY go iso”. Or something.

Much better

by a hay on Feb 12, 2012 5:19 PM EST reply actions  

not even.

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Feb 12, 2012 7:20 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Are the Knicks finally going to have good luck??

I believe in the karma always evens out philosophy. For example, for every stroke of bad luck, you get a stroke of good luck. Over your lifetime, it tends to even out.

So I ask you?? The Knicks have had ROTTEN luck for over a decade. Can karma finally be shifting to our favor?? Lord knows, we have paid our dues, far too numerous to list here.

Let’s dream for a minute that my “even out” theory comes true:

A.) Every Knick player swallows their pride and buys into Tyson’s team first approach.

B.) Baron Davis reagains his Golden State swag.

C.) Jorts returns from his injury, somehow magically playing better than before the injury.

D.) TD returns to being the DWTDD of old.

E.) Jeremy Lin leads the Knicks to multiple championships in his Hall of Fame career.

F.) During the Lin era, LeBron retires ringless. People say, “well, it’s not his fault he
played during the Lin era.”

G.) Jared Jeffries wins back to back scoring titles and Finals MVP’s, an NBA first!

Hey, it’s possible right?? If the “even out theory” is correct, then all of the above would HAVE to occur to offset our equally extreme run of bad luck.

Remember who predicted all this first, so when it comes true you all can give me the credit I deserve!

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by TheKnicksAreBack on Feb 12, 2012 5:43 PM EST reply actions  

That's too funny

LeBron retires ringless. People say, "well, it’s not his fault he
played during the Lin era."

by YIK on Feb 12, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

All of this was sorta possible until you got to “G”

by Crackback on Feb 12, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

When I dream, I dream BIG! But yeah, A-F is remotely possible

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by TheKnicksAreBack on Feb 12, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

one flaw in your theory

jeffries already had his major “good karma” moment when he invented danilo’s rooster handshake/dance/taunt. so even though he’s not el chupacabra anymore, i don’t think MVP is in the cards for him.

by latrell chokewell on Feb 12, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven't seen it written yet, but

Novak, although I love when he shoots the 3, shoots about 98.99% of the time he touched the ball. it almost bothered me until he started sinking the 3s. those turnaround jumpers tho must cease.

as far ad Shump, forget about the defense he played. did y’all see the handles on display?!? on those layups in the 4th..he crossed the defender each time. giving him a clear lane to the rim. they couldn’t guard him. it was as if he took over the “ISO” role that melo has left behind.

I’m not sure how dantoni plans in mixing in novaks minutes. but a Lin shump melo amare chandler lineup SOUNDS fanTASTic

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Feb 12, 2012 7:07 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

I didn't mention fields b/c

he will start and get his minutes regardless

"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"

by semsemma on Feb 12, 2012 7:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Interesting Melo Tweet!

I didn’t realize that. Thanx4update"@tomtomphilly: Wonder if @carmeloanthony knows or cares how terrified #Knicks fans are about his return

about 3 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone

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by TheKnicksAreBack on Feb 12, 2012 7:27 PM EST reply actions  

That came out confusing, sorry . . .

Basically, Melo replied:

“I didn’t realize that”

When he was tweeted by some tomtomphilly guy :

“I wonder if Carmelo Anthony knows or cares how terrified Knicks fans are about his return”

So, Melo knows now and we can all relax.

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by TheKnicksAreBack on Feb 12, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it was sarcasm on Melo's part

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by WSD on Feb 12, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL, pretty nice of Melo to even answer him I suppose

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by TheKnicksAreBack on Feb 12, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Better if his first game back is on the road

Would be a lot of pressure in the Garden with everyone in the building worrying the same worry every time he touched the ball

by jimjoyce25 on Feb 12, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

True, I don't think the Garden crowd will allow Melo to be a "black hole"

Anymore! Now that we have all tasted the Melo-less LINsanity, if he holds the ball for more than 0.001 of a second, they will let him know about it!

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by TheKnicksAreBack on Feb 12, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

The Garden crowd has absolutely no say as to how Melo plays

Melo is able to block out crowds and focus.

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by Russ on Feb 12, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn Russ, is it your hobby to contradict everything I post?? LOL

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by TheKnicksAreBack on Feb 12, 2012 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Only when it is baseless and irrational

Otherwise I agree with you.

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by Russ on Feb 12, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Now Russ, recall that game where the Garden crowd chanted

“Pass, pass, pass” at Melo when he held the ball, and booed when he took horrible shots?

Then remember the next game he came out moving the ball, shooting less, and the Knick offense started to actually look good for once?

That was not a coincidence, that was Melo hearing the message loud and clear from the Garden crowd. It was “shoot less, pass more,” and Melo obliged.

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by TheKnicksAreBack on Feb 12, 2012 8:34 PM EST reply actions  

How do you know that was not a coincidence?

If Melo was responding to the crowd, why would he wait until the next game to do so?

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by Russ on Feb 12, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Did this last the whole game or one half? Was this during the play through injury phase?

Because he has come out with big assist totals in the first half a lot this season, they added nothing to the total in the second half. If it was up to the garden crowd, Jeffries would never have taken a shot this year, in which case the past 5 games probably wouldn’t have been wins

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by astromets on Feb 13, 2012 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Melo's own quotes

"I’m getting booed for not making shots,’’ said Anthony. "I’m not too concerned with that. The expectations are still high. I’m not regretting the trade. If you want to boo me for missing shots, boo me. I’m not worried about that.’’

Then he reflects a little and decides:

"Maybe it is time to reevaluate everything, reevaluate my body, sit with the trainers, see what is going on,’’ Anthony said. "I am hard-headed at times.’’

I am just trying to prove that he does hear the crowd and is not “able to block out crowds and focus” like you said.

Whether or not he takes the advice to heart, only Melo knows for sure. Those quotes make it sound to me like Melo was shocked by the boos and it forced him to take a look in the mirror.

After he looked in the mirror, he realized that playing hurt and launching low percentage shots were actually doing more harm to the team than good.

That’s when he decided to shut it down and rest.

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by TheKnicksAreBack on Feb 12, 2012 9:09 PM EST reply actions  

the 2nd set of quotes

were about the injuries, not him getting boo’d

by m3llofan on Feb 12, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Steve Novak

I want to keep him after this season. Crazy good shooter.

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by knickswin on Feb 13, 2012 12:06 AM EST reply actions  

Ya

Having him on the floor with Melo and Stat will open crazy amounts of space for him.

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by Chairman Meow on Feb 13, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

His D has been better than I expected also.

Not claiming Novak is a shutdown defender but watching him play the last few games gives me the impression he’s not so terrible defensively that he needs to be hidden.

by srsrs on Feb 13, 2012 5:47 AM EST up reply actions  

he's okay on the wing

but millsap and jefferson completely abused him and jeffries. they are both too skinny for a lot of big men

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by knickswin on Feb 13, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

mo evans abused him too.

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by stingy d on Feb 14, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

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