Dissecting Lin's Assists and Turnovers and why he will improve
Much has been made of Lin's AST/TO ratio. It's not been good, decent peripherals or not. I've been a bit Lin obsessed recently, what with his performance being an exceedingly rare mixture of unexpected and awesome. Curious about his passing to this point, I've rewatched his plays and taken notes, classifying Lin's assists and turnovers by his position on the floor, the position of his passing target, and his behavior as he passes the ball. Scrutinizing his game like this, I've reached a few conclusions that give reason to be optimistic on his future performance. Note: While Lin has 81 assists and 45 turnovers, I somehow missed 3 turnovers in my analysis. Keep that in mind with particularly small sample sizes, but it should not matter.
First, his flaws:
- When Lin is driving towards the basket with a defender on him, he has 34 assists to 24 turnovers. This is the biggest weakness of Lin's game, accounting for over half of his turnovers while only producing a bit over a third of his assists. When he is moving into the paint and drawing defenders it is, as expected, harder for Lin to keep his dribble. He is occasionally losing balance and slipping when defensive pressure stays on him as he tries to blow by his man, as well as being stripped or thrown off track by help defenders.
- When he's driving in very close range, Lin's attempted a lot of jump passes to big men who have followed him to the rim, trying to give them a good chance for a dunk or other easy basket. He has managed to snag a few fine-looking assists with his athleticism, but he's had almost as many turnovers on those passes (6 ast, 5 to). If Lin insists on throwing therse passes he has been much more successful when taking care not to leave his feet.
- When Lin is driving towards the rim from further out and he sees Chandler cutting there simultaneously, he has attempted a few ill-advised bounce passes past moving defenders, resulting in 5 assists and 5 turnovers. Lin should not be driving towards the paint to facilitate others in the paint when he has exhibited just as good a chance of finishing at the rim as anyone. It makes the process of scoring one step harder to throw a pass that isn't necessary. Shooting in traffic with momentum towards the hoop has been one of Lin's greatest strengths. He needs to trust himself more and take better advantage of it.
As for his strengths:
- When it comes to driving to the basket and kicking it out to a perimeter or midrange shooter, the story changes dramatically. Lin has been very solid at driving and kicking with 17 assists to 3 turnovers, and most of those assists have resulted in 3 points, This is very efficient point production. Even when he makes jump passes, they have been good passes, as he usually jumps facing his target and away from his defender.
- When Lin isn't focusing on trying to reach the basket, he has been a maestro. He moves well when he passes, getting space from his defender and creating favorable angles. He has trouble making especially long passes to big men cutting towards the basket, as the distance and direction simply gives defenders too much a chance to react and take the ball away, Other than that, Lin has been very effective on alley oops (7 assists:1 Balkman brainfart) passes to big men who have established position near the rim (8 Ast, 0 TO) and most especially finding open 3 point shooters behind the line (16 ast, 1 TO). Lin has also been effective in transition with 6 assists to 2 turnovers.
We can identify ways to improve Lin's passing numbers and by extension the team's offense by modifying the team's play to suit his skills.
- Jeremy's been phenomenal in getting open looks to 3 point shooters without having his passes intercepted. He has 32 extra-valuable assists to 4 turnovers on passes to teammates on the perimeter. He should have more, but Novak has been the only consistenly good 3 point shooter on the team. Steve's taken full advantage of the open looks Lin has provided, shooting around a 50% 3PT clip since the Nets game, and Lin has passed it extremely efficiently to him as well, with 18 assists and 0 turnovers on targets to him. He's not turned the ball over passing it to Bill Walker either, but Walker has failed miserably at his role in the offense, bricking open looks and making ill-advised drives to the rim to the tune of 30%.FG from 2 and 3 point range since Linception (10 ast). The Landriest has likewise been crap, shooting 2/10 from 3 in this stretch (3 ast, 2 to on outside targets).
D'Antoni's system is heavily reliant on having multiple effective outside shooters. It is by far the most efficient and valuable aspect of Lin's passing game to this point but it has been underutilized because of the players on the floor. Carmelo has shown ability to sink open 3 point and midrange looks, and he should take far better advantage of them than Walker has when he returns from injury. The return of Josh Harrellson and Baron Davis in a possible off-guard role will also help, but the acquisition of J.R. Smith could be massive. Improving the team's miserable 3-point percentage has to be the top priority in any player acquisitions going forward, and Smith is a good man for that job. Assuming he would not disrupt the flow of the offense it would be well-worth giving him a good chunk of Landry's minutes. Besides the obvious increase in points scored and field goal percentage it would cut down dramatically on the number of turnovers while increasing the number of assists, greatly strengthening both offensive efficiency and defense. Shifting the scoring/passing emphasis a bit more to the perimeter is the surest way to improve Lin's ast:turnover ratio.
- Not all of Lin's turnovers are a result of his passing. A substantial number are the result of failed forays to the basket where there is little likelihood or intention of passing, and could more accurately be classified as missed field goals (7 turnovers on drives into the paint when a pass was not attempted). A number of these turnovers came on miscues by Lin under pressure, including some embarrassing slips and falls as well as lost dribbles. These types of turnovers increase in frequency when a player is asked to dominate the ball nearly every offensive possession. Lin does not only have more chances to screw up, he is playing with a gigantic target on his back because opposing teams have been trying to keep the ball out of his scalding hands. Reducing the scoring burden on Lin will reduce his turnovers without taking much of a toll on his assists. This will obviously improve his ratio and is almost certain to happen with Melo and Amar'e back in the lineup.
- The first thing that D'Antoni needs to drill into Lin at practice is that he should jump in close to the basket ONLY if he intends to score or kick the ball out to the perimeter. Lin is a tremendous finisher at the hoop with a field goal percentage there of 63% (ref. Hoopdata). He has been very good at drawing fouls and shooting through contact, collecting a high number of and-ones and free throws. A missed FGA is not nearly as harmful as a turnover, and Lin's paltry assist:turnover number on passing attempts to close-range players when he's driving to the hoop does not justify attempting the pass instead going for the score himself. You may be saying "Wouldn't asking Lin to take more shots himself be increasing his scoring burden?" In a technical sense, it is. In a practical sense what you're doing is improving the efficiency of his drives into the paint. It takes Lin as much effort to make that pass as attempt a shot, but the risk-reward of his plays is much higher when he defers to himself. As mentioned above, the only time he's really effective both driving and facilitating is when he throws it to someone on the outside. Improving team 3PT% would make Lin's drive and kick ability a deadly facet of the offense that opposing defenses will have to be wary of.
- Given his previously mentioned efficiency with alley oops (7 AST, 1 TO), Lin should attempt to incorporate more lobs into his game as opposed to line drive and bounce passes. He is personally more effective in throwing the lob and he has the perfect target in Tyson Chandler, with occasional cameos from Fields and potentially Shumpert and Amar'e and Carmelo in the future. This is something that should be a natural consequence of reducing his scoring load as well as improving the talent around him.
- Lin should be coached to be more composed in the act of passing. Often when he is in motion and preoccupied with beating his defender on the dribble, Lin has seen the flash of an opportunity and thrown either an ill-advised pass in a miscalculated window or thrown a less accurate pass due to a poorer form. When Lin goes to work from midrange to the perimeter without regard for trying to beat his man and get closer to the hoop, he has 41 assists to 12 turnovers, a very impressive 3.5 AST/TO. Lin seems to have a sweet range around midrange in terms of efficiency when passing where he has been able to perform every pass reasonably well provided he is relatively still (7 AST 0 TO). The further away Lin is, the more his turnover numbers climb when he tries to hit big men as they're working to get into the painted area. Lin can be a highly accurate passer, but every unnecessary body movement degrades that accuracy. He should also take care not to throw passes that are too far. Anything you can do to decrease the likelihood of a turnover is a good thing. This is a matter of coaching, experience, and discipline. I think Lin will improve this on the job, but we'll see.
- For all the love he's given Chandler, a lot of his passes to Tyson have been picked off (18 AST 10 TO). This is due to a number of reasons. For much of this stretch Chandler's been the most (only) offensively talented big man on the floor, which means that he is an obvious target to watch when trying to defend Lin's passing lanes. Because he is the most targeted big man, he has been a frequent target for Lin's worst pass attempts, and that is being reflected as well. Conversely, in his limited time with Amar'e Stoudemire Lin has accumulated 11 assists and 2 turnovers when targeting him, far more assists in far less time than he's gotten through Jared Jeffries (5 ast, 3 TO). Part of this is due to Amar'e's excellence at running this offense, but it also has to do with the fact that Amar'e is usually playing alongside another big that defenses have to account for. With him and Chandler playing together, the efficiency of passing to Chandler should rise.
Don't be fooled. Lin is an extremely talented passer, but there are several factors outside of his control that work to depress his assists and increase his turnovers. Properly incorporating Carmelo Anthony into the offense and acquiring JR Smith are key to maximizing the immense talent in this offense. If the Knicks can pull it off it will be a thing of beauty.
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Great post
I’d hope that the team staff has similarly broken down Lin’s game and is coaching him up on his weaknesses. If not, then I hope that someone gets this breakdown into Lin’s hands so he knows where he’s going wrong.
After all you only have so many staff members to break down film, and with the condensed season they probably don’t have that much time either. It does worry me that Lin has not made any noticeable strides in cutting his TO’s after a handful of games…we can no longer just pass them off as a product of fatigue.
By far I think the most important point you made is Lin should drive to either score or kick out, because making that extra interior pass is just asking for trouble with all the big bodies collapsing towards the rim, and especially not worth it because of Lin’s especially high rate of finishing and/or drawing fouls.
Another thought
How has Lin handled early double teams? It seems like he gives it away too often when trying to split or pass over them, which is especially bad since it basically means a free bucket or a 2 on 1 break the other way.
I didn't specifically note how he reacted to this, but from my memory you are correct
The more crowded the paint is when he charges into it, the less efficient he has been in the role of facilitator and ball handler. You see some moves by Lin trying to split the defense where you’re like “How is he still on his feet, let alone still dribbling??” It’s not a part of his game you want to rely upon too much. Increased defensive pressure in general causes more turnovers. When he’s dribbling in the midst of several opposing jerseys Lin’s effectiveness as expected goes down, but I didn’t quantify how much.
I see the Knicks have acquired J.R. Smith. As I noted above this is potentially a fantastic move. In a matter of one or two games the Knicks have worked to replace the minutes given terrible outside shooters like Bibby, Fields, Shumpert, Walker, and Jeffries with the likes of Amar’e, Carmelo, and Smith. Again, assuming that D’Antoni is able to coordinate them effectively, there is no reason why this offense should not be VASTLY superior to the one that has played to this point.
by SweatbandProliferation on Feb 17, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
We all hope so re: JR Smith
But some of us, myself included, have a bad feeling about JR Smith just jacking up 30 ft threes for no good reason…especially since it will be tough to find him minutes, so he will be more inclined to firing away when he does get in the game.
I feel like we added a Nick Young who just happens to have been in the league longer.
Consider this: even with those chucking tendencies the man has shot 37% from 3 in his career. He's damn wet
J R Smith should get the bulk of his minutes playing off the ball or cutting to the rim anyway. I don’t see those chucks being a problem unless he is playing a significant role as PG.
by SweatbandProliferation on Feb 17, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
I am writing after the Dallas game
and I think JR was sensational. I don’t think any of his shots were ill advised, even the ones he missed. His D was better than advertised, although his gamble for a steal cost us a basket, he was a major contributor. I particularly liked when he passed up a chuck in traffic and got the ball out to Lin to reset the offense. That sold me.
Lin Your Face Calderon... Toronto 2/14/2012...JFL
Great post
VERY insightful…I learned a shitload
You just got Tysoned!!!!!!
Nice Breakdown on Assist/TO
Like how you pointed out that Although the Assist/TO with Amare is better than Chandler, Amare did benefit of a second big. I’m curious how much the Assist/TO will improve wiith Chandler now that Amare is back.
Jump passes are a universal no-no for everyone but it could be so instinctual that Lin might need an entire offseason to break out of this habit. There’s lots of young players that succeed in fixing this problem but I’m not so sure Lin will pull it off this season with so little practice time between games.
You bring up that Lin’s worst Assist/TO ratios are when he’s driving to the him & has a defender with him. Think during the Raptors game, their color guy was stating Lin needs to build up some more strength to be more successful in this area. The swatting coming from random directions (that doesn’t draw fouls) is having too much of an impact. Do you feel like an increase in strength is needed or that the concept of driving w/ defender following should just be rarely done?
Thanks for the research & write-up. Really cool to read the breakdown.
I don't know that he necessarily needs to become stronger. Driving with a defender on him is going to happen less simply because he won't have to score by himself as much.
The simple fact of the matter is when you take it into the teeth of the defense it becomes easier to cough the ball up. I suggested ways in which Lin can mitigate this by having more of a clear plan of what he intends to do when he is charging down the floor. If it weren’t for all of those ill-advised jump passes alone his assist to turnover ratio would be much better, and he is a good enough inside scorer that if you cut down on the low percentage passes he can be very efficient scoring and kicking out. Jeremy has shown a lot of great instincts along with some bad habits, but he is a rookie basically so that is to be expected. Simply changing his tendencies as the dynamic of his team’s offense changes should come easily enough in-season.
by SweatbandProliferation on Feb 17, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
Nice work
Curious what you do for a living.
Since Lin has played significant minutes in only seven games, my guess is that right now he is nowhere near the player he is going to become.
Consider that a year ago he was an OK ball handler, fair passer, poor finisher and poor shooter.
Ie, not good enough even to play in the NBA, much less to dominate and beat the Lakers by himself.
By all accounts, his improvement to date is due to working very, very hard. Although there is much room for further improvement, why should anyone doubt that he has talent, will continue to work very hard, will learn from the experience of playing actual games, and become an even better player than he is now?
The sports media consensus questions whether he will continue to be able to play well, anywhere near the level he has shown so far. My guess is that, as usual, they are mistaken, and will continue to underestimate what he is capable of.
Was he really poor at all of those things, or never given a chance to try out?
I know basketball is not the same as baseball, but I am reminded of the start to Willie Mays’ career when he began 0-12 until he finally got his first hit on a home run off of Warren Spahn, who said later “I’ll never forgive myself. We might have gotten rid of Willie forever if I’d only struck him out.” The point being that you can never judge anyone at anything if you don’t give them a real chance. Nobody had until the Knicks, really. I’m sure he has improved in some facets of his game, as he will continue to do, but the talent has always been there. Now it is about using it properly and becoming more disciplined and experienced running the floor.
by SweatbandProliferation on Feb 17, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
He played for the Warriors last year and the lack of skill is what he showed.
He just did not have the capability to play at this level last year. It was not that he was this good all along and nobody noticed.
But isn't that also exactly what we saw earlier this season from Lin when putting him into garbage time?
I vividly remember the posters who said that Lin should never see the floor because of all the miscues he had, that he did not look like he belonged on an NBA team, that he should be cut, etc. Finally D’Antoni took a look at him and said “Okay, we’re going to actually make you part of the team” and he has excelled. D’Antoni’s system has allowed him to thrive with his passing ability, but he still brought things to the table that have been overlooked. I don’t believe he improved so dramatically after just one offseason
by SweatbandProliferation on Feb 17, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
I will add though that I have not seen much of what he did with the Warriors, but nobody really saw much promise in him until the Nets game period
by SweatbandProliferation on Feb 17, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
I think he got better at finishing
also that confidence
Rose decides not to go 1-on-2 and I was thinking, "what are you doing?! You've got the numbers!" -Zach Harper, Daily Dime Live
Some of us posters and toasters saw promise
On December 29th after two games with DWTDD at the helm I wrote a post asking if we should ‘Spin Lin Now’ and in the survey over seventy percent of us thought he should start or get big minutes. Not saying we saw this coming, because nobody could have foreseen this, but many of us wanted him to get burn a month before MDA made the decision.
Lin Your Face Calderon... Toronto 2/14/2012...JFL
As for the Warriors, Lin was never given much of chance.
Last season, as the Warriors ownership was changing the new incoming ownership wanted Nellie fired ASAP. However, the buying/selling of Warriors hit some snags so there was a delay in ownership transition. By the time Nellie was finally fired it was too late to properly interview candidates. Keith Smart who’s Nellie’s assistant @ the time was then given HC job by default.
In the backcourt they’ve got Ellis & Curry. Ellis led the league or was close to the top in minutes played per game. And Curry is pretty much viewed as untouchable and destined for greatness by many in the Warriors fanbase and management. This just didn’t leave a lot of minutes for other guards. Whatever minutes were out there for third guards went to a non-talent veteran named Acie Law (and this pissed off many fans because he really sucked). The reason I think Acie Law got the minutes is because the coach knew what he was gonna get..
It’s aggravating to think Lin didn’t get a chance BUT at the same time when Keith Smart was hired last season he had a tough ultimatum to reach. Playoffs or fired. Everybody knew that the only reason Smart had that job was because there wasn’t enough time to properly interview coaching candidates.
Last year, Lin played for a team which has their starting backcourt set in stone & a rookie head coach who didn’t give a damn about developing for the future because he was fighting to hold onto his first (and what many thought would be his last) ever coaching job.
NYTimes piece today on Lin's development the last two years http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/25/sports/basketball/the-evolution-of-jeremy-lin-as-a-point-guard.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&ref=sports
Finally the story I’ve been looking for. I’m no fan of Howard Beck, but he seems to have done the reasarch and shows the many steps Lin took over the last two years to bring his game to its current level.
It also suggests why we should have reason to think the evolution is nowhere near done, and why the strategy Miami used against him worked, but is not likely to remain a workable way to defend him.
btw: I’m pleased Blake Griffin seems to have taken Lin under his wing and they’ve become friends. I follow the Clippers too, and Griffin is as far from the stereotypical NBAer as Lin is. Griffin will be a free agent in a couple of years. You don’t suppose ….
I need to rewatch it, because I did not catch the beginning when he had the bulk of his turnovers
Aside from the first quarter Lin actually did not do a bad job of ball security. Once again we see the problem of having no 3 point scoring.
by SweatbandProliferation on Feb 17, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
I'll post here what I did in the recap thread
Poor transition pass to Amar’e
Lost control of the ball driving into the paint
Lost control of the ball driving into the paint
Steal the ball but loses it immediately
Ill-advised jump pass to Fields in the corner after driving into the paint
Lost control of the ball driving into the paint
Ill-advised jump pass to Fields at the rim after driving into the paint
Lost control of the ball driving into the paint
A rare misthrown alley-oop to Amar’e that he usually does very well.
This is what happens when you have a one-dimensional offense like they did today
by SweatbandProliferation on Feb 18, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
Look at the entire game.
Have you ever played against a full court press? Lin should not have brought up the ball while being attacked by Chalmers. Bring 2 people to bring it up the court. They were switching Chalmers out with a fresh player too.
I thought this was a great game. It brought out all the flaws of our Knicks team. There’s no real threat to our seed status. It forces our Knicks team to swallow their pride and understand what extra skills they need to be perfect.
Wait!?! He isn't a HoF!!!
Lin has flaws!?!
Great post ;). I Rec’d it.
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