Knicks 104, Mavericks 97: "Fast start, good finish."
by Seth on Feb 19, 2012 5:37 PM EST
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That, uh...that didn't go how I thought it would go. Coming off an ugly loss and playing on national television against an elite defensive team that had won six straight games, Jeremy Lin and the Knicks had every excuse to crumble and fall further below .500. Amazingly, though, they dominated the first and fourth quarters (just like fried_chicken said in the postgame thread), got huge contributions from the bench, and followed another valiant performance by Lin to come back from twelve down and upend the Mavericks.
Notes after the jump!
- In the first quarter, Lin took perfect care of the ball, penetrated for kick-outs and finishes, and hit his long jumpers. The team as a whole helped by splashing from outside and crashing the offensive glass for second opportunities. In the second, the Mavs all but erased a twelve-point Knick lead while Lin was on the bench, but kept pace to maintain a three-point lead at halftime. In the third, the Mavs locked down on defense and forced the Knicks to miss jumpers, going ahead by as much as 12 themselves thanks to Dirk Nowitzki's 13 (of 34) points. New York closed the quarter on a 7-0 run, though, then rode hot outside shooting from Lin and Steve Novak plus some big defensive plays down the stretch to the victory. Now, if you'd like to go player by player...
- Against the best defense he's faced, Jeremy Lin looked mostly unflappable. He would not flap. There were errors, of course-- he lost his dribble pretty frequently (7 turnovers, plus many more fumbles that got recovered) and over-helped a bit on defense-- but pretty much everything else was stellar (and again, the kid's losing the ball because he always has it and is always attacking and trying to make plays. We'll take it.). Lin did a much better job of handling a defense that was focused almost entirely on him. He looked much more prepared to beat traps with a simple pass or an evasive dribble and didn't let Shawn Marion's long-limbed irritation sap his aggression. He punished the Mavs off the dribble every time they overplayed him or bit on a fake and used that penetration to get inside and either help himself or zip the ball out to the perimeter. My favorite stretch was probably in the mid to late third quarter when he cut a swelling Dallas lead by weaving (somewhat wildly) into the paint for successive and-ones, then forced a backcourt turnover and dropped an uncontested dunk to cut it to three before the quarter-ending buzzer. In the fourth, Lin drained two threes-- including one massive, scrotum-scraping-the-floor pull-up over Nowitzki and made a couple slick defensive plays to force turnovers (five steals, so that over-helping paid off sometimes). Oh, and the guy recorded a career-high 14 assists despite having his pick-and-roll outlets steadily blocked throughout the afternoon. You make me very happy, Jeremy.
- As usual, a big performance from Lin was aided by the fact that guys hit open looks from outside. In the first quarter, it was J.R. Smith, who entered the game six minutes in and played more minutes than Landry Fields after there'd been uncertainty regarding whether he'd play at all. Smith hit three threes in the first to buoy that Knick lead. He was ice cold from outside the rest of the way (finishing 3-9 from downtown), but nailed a couple tough twos and cherry-picked for a big lay-in in the final minute. His defense-- often switched onto Nowitzki-- wasn't half bad as either. He did a lot of fronting off the ball, held his ground, and committed good, smart fouls (some of which could have gone uncalled) when Dirk made his move.
- In the fourth, it was Steve Novak's turn to cook soup from outside. He scored all of his 14 points in the first five minutes of the period, getting so ridiculous from outside that he felt compelled to bust out the Aaron Rodgers belt move whilst I bellowed "EH STEVE!" over and over again in my living room. Huge, huge contribution, and I thought he put in some good defensive possessions against Vince Carter as well.
- Landry Fields struggled in the third (arrhythmic shots, some defensive lapses) and ceded all of his minutes to Smith in the fourth, but he had a nice line (13 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals) in just 26 minutes and made a few fairly spectacular plays. One was a perfectly-timed snaggle of a telegraphed Jason Kidd pass and another was his far-side-of-the-rim-under-dunkaroo ("The Wilson Chandler Special") early on.
- Amar'e Stoudemire had a couple nice connections with Lin in the first half, but played a pretty awful game overall. His jumper-- which had been fine in the previous game-- just wouldn't fall and he found himself cornered helplessly under the rim a couple of times. That second thing is pretty scary considering that we were once accustomed seeing Amar'e finish absolutely everything at the rim. I'm not quite in the "holy shit, the dude's back is totally shot" camp, though, because he really did look springy and sharp in a few of the games he played before his familial tragedy and extended absence. Still, it's always disheartening to see a guy like Amar'e do anything other than spike the ball into Brandan Wright's mouth when he's right under the rim.
- Tyson Chandler, who evident knows the Mavs pretty well, guarded pretty much everybody. Dallas limited his touches on offense, but he more than made up for it on the other end by playing near-perfect defense through every single screen and switch. There were some possessions in which he guarded three or four different Mavericks and convinced each one that he'd better not try any shit or Tyson would murder him and gobble up his carcass even though he wasn't hungry. Chandler fell hard backwards on to his wrists on two occasions, and is getting x-rays on his left hand-ankle as I write this. If you have the ear of any deities, now would be a good time to pray to them. (Somewhat encouraging: Chandler kept playing and put in some great work in the fourth quarter despite being in visible pain. I'm convinced that the guy would play with a javelin through his gut, though, so I don't quite trust his grit.)
- Jared Jeffries, left wide open for most of the night, offered none of his improbable-yet-effective shooting or driving (it was improbable and ineffective), but played a big role in the second half comeback. Like Chandler, Jared was everywhere as a help defender (though more as a trapper than a switcher) and, like Chandler, he got his talons on some important rebounds on both ends of the floor.
- Iman Shumpert started at the three in Bill Walker's (and Carmelo Anthony's, lest you forget) absence and didn't give the Knicks much. He shot just 2-9 (that sort of shooting line is becoming kind of a thing for him) and missed some weird ones, including a second half runner that missed so hard off the glass that I'm convinced it was an exceedingly clever entry pass instead of a shot. To be fair, Shump may have been thrown off by two early fouls. D'Antoni got cute and stuck Shump on Nowitzki to start the first and third quarters and the experiment was an abject, unmitigated failure. Shump's tall and has long arms, but those arms don't like, telescope. There is some limit to how big a player he can justifiably defend.
- One of the fun parts about watching a new, talented player is that individual moves reappear enough that, over time, you come to realize that the guy has that move; he didn't just do it once or twice. For Lin, a righty drive followed by an even rightier floater from the side of his head has proven to be a go-to move, and it's almost impossible to defend because he releases it from such a weird pocket (sort of like his jump shot).
- More weird clock stuff in crunch time: A nice baseline floater by Amar'e (with a little push-off) ended up getting waved off because it left his hands tinyseconds before the shot clock buzzer. Later, the Mavs blew three chances to score on their final possession, the Knicks got the ball on a Lin steal, and everybody just kinda...stopped-- which was weird, because the clock stopped on the TV, but reportedly not in the building. Anyway, that one ended with Lin feeding Chandler wide open down the court for an easy dunk, so no complaints here.
- To my eye, the Knicks closed out on three-point shooters as well as they have all season. Then again, to my eye, Dominique Jones looks like a swollen Marlo Stanfield, so maybe get a second opinion.
- Lin got flagrant-fouled by Jason Terry (totally wasn't flagrant, but Lin sold it with a perfect penguin slide on his tummy) in the first half and Jeffries got in Terry's face afterward, which is exactly the kind of corny team-bonding shit I love to see on a Sunday afternoon.
And there you have it. The Knicks totally could have gotten away with losing that game, but Lin and friends rose to the occasion and iced what had been a very hot basketball team. Up next, they'll have to avoid a letdown tomorrow night against the Nets, but in the interim, I'm gonna have trouble wiping this grin off my face.
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Maybe the best thing about Lin
…is how he steps up his game in 4th quarters. Very, very useful trait.
I think it's all that halftime video watchin'
Listen to his post game interviews, he might be a good coach after his playing days are over as well.
by wwert on Feb 19, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I said the same thing. Lin would make a great coach.
by NotThatChrisRusso on Feb 19, 2012 8:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Like a reverse Lebron!
"Yeah, come on and let the good times roll
We're gonna stay here till we soothe our souls
If it take all night long"
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"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Feb 19, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Speaking of letdown in NJ..
The Nets are coming off a huge win against Chicago, and they’re apparently getting Brook Lopez back tonight…plus, you know D-WIll will be looking to payback J LIn for his schooling him a couple weeks back. Melo returning, Baron debuting?…Avoid the trap game.
They'll be on the third game of a back-to-back-to-back on Monday night. Brook Lopez probably won't play Monday, too.
Unless Deron rips off Lin’s arms in a fit of rage, this should be a gimme.
Of course, it would be the most Knicksy thing to end up with Knick 89-Nets 101, so who knows.
I dream of Eddy Curry feeding me fish sticks.
Look at it Dave. Look at it.
Yeah I know. Hence, why he won't be playing tomorrow.
I dream of Eddy Curry feeding me fish sticks.
Look at it Dave. Look at it.
yea Johnson said he'll probably hold him out to get rest
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Feb 19, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
LOL Nyets
Comeon man. Get serious. Bottom 5 team in the NBA…. with a full scouting report out.
The Hornets are bottom 3.
Stainer of mountaintops.
by Chairman Meow on Feb 19, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
WE Know the Nets however folks.
Doesn’t guarantee a win, nothing does in this league except going out and taking care of business. But if there is a team that the Knicks Know very well it is the Nets.
by Robert Curre on Feb 20, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Friday, Hornets
shit happens
"Yeah, come on and let the good times roll
We're gonna stay here till we soothe our souls
If it take all night long"
Brook Lopez?
Ooooooooooh. The Knicks should be very scared of that slow mediocre “center.”
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"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
Hey!
Someone Amare could guard!
Rose decides not to go 1-on-2 and I was thinking, "what are you doing?! You've got the numbers!" -Zach Harper, Daily Dime Live
Last year Brook dropped like 39 on Amar'e
So….
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Blind squirrel...
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lolBrooke
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by Rorschach44 on Feb 19, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
My O My, How is Dantoni gonna get all these people in the lineup..
Dare I Say.. Lessen Amare’s Minutes?
Halpy 2.0
Fire Dantoni
Tough situation with Stat
He looks like he needs MORE PT to get his groove back. On the other hand, his defense (and jump shot) is just not there, so it’s hard to give him PT in tight games. Rock and a hard place.
Stat’s D is never gonna be there, though. It’s just not in his DNA. Since the Knicks are winning in large part due to their defense…. what do you do with Stat?
Roll 'em
This is a good problem to have. Right now the Knicks basically have two teams — offensive juggernaut (including Amar’e) and defensive fortress (NOT including Amar’e). D’Antoni can even swap players as the situation demands. For example, if the outside shooters are cold and the other team has a guy that just won’t miss, take out Novak and put in Shumpert (for example). When everyone buys into the team, this is easy to do. If the Knicks average out with ten players averaging 24 minutes apiece, then that means each player can play that much harder.
The letdown last night was a sort of weird blue moon where every single outside shooter got ice-cold at the same time. NOLA gambled on defending the paint and only won because the outside game wasn’t there. D’Antoni was rotating them like crazy to try to get some pressure off the inside game, no luck. I swear throwing Smith out there would’ve been just one more cold shooter that night. It was that much of an outlier, and it probably won’t happen again for a while.
The tough problems right now is that two Knicks don’t have any replacements that won’t result in an overall big letdown — Chandler and Lin. Baron Davis’ return should make for a platoon at PG that gives opposing teams nightmares, and Melo’s return will be an upgrade. It’d be nice to have two Chandlers, but c’mon — that would be getting downright spoiled.
Chandler really is incredible
One of a kind… really. They say Dwight is the best defensive center in the NBA. I think it’s Tyson, because he does SO MUCH out there.
bwuaaaahahahahhaaaa!!
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by Rorschach44 on Feb 19, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
hahahhahahahha
you never stop. It’s like David Lee was your first kiss.
I dream of Eddy Curry feeding me fish sticks.
Look at it Dave. Look at it.
by GAx on Feb 20, 2012 12:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I thought that comment was sarcasm...
It was….. right? Can’t be real, can’t…….
Tough call
Depends too much on what the Cavs and Bucks do. Celtics might make 8th seed, then out in 1st round. The way things are trending now tho, I wouldn’t take that bet.
But I would bet hard on their not getting 7th seed or better. Cs are done…. probably for years to come.
frankiec really really really really really really likes David Lee
I dream of Eddy Curry feeding me fish sticks.
Look at it Dave. Look at it.
Yeah, but that statement is SO far out there.....
I gotta believe it’s sarcasm till he proves otherwise…. :)
Did you have your David Lee kneepads on when you posted this?
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honestly, i was never that big a fan of david
but i would start thinking about moving stoudemire for him, even with david’s stupid big contract. lee’s a better fit for what we have now. i dunno though. i wouldn’t do the trade. lee presents his own set of problems. i’m not sure it’d be worth the effort.
Anxiously awaiting the day my username will be appropriate
No, Lee's contract is horrible & he doesn't come close to justifying it.
David Lee is very good …. if the’s the first big off your bench. He does contribute but nowhere enough to justify that insane contract.
Lee’s defense is also horrible. Even though Lee does grab rebounds, the rebound rates for the Warriors don’t increase while he’s on the floor. He doesn’t fight opposing big for tough rebounds nearly enough & dominates those uncontested rebounds that were going to wind up going to some random person on his team.
Amare has looked off & if the last couple game are the best Amare will ever play then he’s also a bad contract. However, Amare’s had some back problems & a death in the family so I think he deserves a pass (for now).
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Go on the Warriors fansite:
http://www.goldenstateofmind.com
You’ll get a lot more detailed analysis on Lee from the fans wishing they can get rid of him.
His last summer here just before he got sign-and-traded to you guys, David Lee was swearing he was working on his defense and working to extend his range to the three point line.
Is he still working on that then, I guess?
I dream of Eddy Curry feeding me fish sticks.
Look at it Dave. Look at it.
When it comes to defense, Lee does put in effort ... but he's still terrible.
As for the extending his range, the Warriors have some pretty good 3 point shooters so it’s unlikely Lee would get many shots out there even if was able to nail them consistently.
What tough situation
The team is 8-1 in its last nine games. He put up 26-10 in the one game they lost. Amare is fine, Frankly I disagree with Seth’s recap, although I know why he wrote it. We all want to see Amare throw up 30 every night, but he has been playing some pretty nice team basketball. He had three big offensive rebounds in the 4th quarter and those led to 7 points. He made two free throws himself(And for those worried about his knees he jumped Clean over Dirk to snag that rebound), snatched another one between two Mavs and found Novak in the corner, his third rebound resulted in points when he kicked it out and then set a nice back screen to Free Smith for a 15 footer. Amare is fine, he is just a guy who wants to win and puts team ahead of his personal stats. He took ten shots all within the scope of the offense and did not force anything.
by Robert Curre on Feb 20, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I would happy if we cuts down everybody's minutes do it like pop.
I only want chandler, melo, and lin play at least 30+ minutes
Enter The Garden of Lin
Stop the trolling! LOL
D’Antoni is not cutting Amare’s minutes.
by Robert Curre on Feb 20, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
x-rays always comes in negatives.
it’s a plate and a piece of film. His wrist might be okay but he landed on his back pretty friggin hard.
Landed on his pelvis
If that were broken, no way would he be running around like he did in the 4th. Bruise, probably.
but that means at worst he has bruising, right?
or could he still have like a fracture or something?
Yeah, means it was probably just a bruise
…because he landed right on this pelvic bone, and you can’t run around with a pelvic fracture. Just guessing of course… we’ll know soon enough.
need MRI
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yeah they were heating his back....
which means muscle issues
by I know smart people on Feb 19, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t say anything in the game thread and the Knicks won!
Record is 1-1 at PostingandToasting….aw yeahhhh
Chill.
Deleting something is too much work. I’ma just not post if they win the next 2. Lol
by Dirtybirdz04 on Feb 19, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
Still
Worried about Amare. I think he is hiding some injury. He can’t explode. Reminds me of LJ after his back woes started
by skyballer on Feb 19, 2012 6:11 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I'm thinking it's his back!
A players explosiveness just doesn’t complete evaporate like that without explaination. Amare looks like he can barely hop anymore. Something ain’t right…
I wish a reporter would ask him about it.
by Mizzie on Feb 19, 2012 6:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They have
He’s admitted that his back recovery over the summer slowed down his workouts and training. He worked on posture and stuff too over the lockout, which could be affecting his leaping.
Honestly, I would expect him to look pretty sluggish over the rest of the week. Hopefully he’ll get good rest over the All-Star break and he can come back explosive and ready to go
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it is quite scary.
makes me think of the knee surgeries and/or his back. you know something is wrong when he catches the ball at the rim and pump fakes when no one is really there to block his shot.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
by semsemma on Feb 19, 2012 7:00 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
It cause he's been having too much sex...
Lol dont know if anyone watching “the exes” he was on there and his game tookk a huge hit cause he was having sex the night before games lol
Maybe its his nerd goggles.
They look like they screw up your peripheral vision. Needs to go back to the Oakleys. Seriously though, it does look like a back issue.
I think him exploding would be detrimental to his health.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Feb 19, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
he's overweight and poorly conditioned right now
we can only hope he works himself back into shape over the next couple of months.
i also wonder if he’ll have better chemistry with baron than lin. they work out together.
Anxiously awaiting the day my username will be appropriate
There is nothing wrong with Amare
except that he is not demanding to be the Center of the team’s universe and playing team basketball. If he went out there and chucked up 25 shots because he is Amare and he has to get his, you guys would be complaining about that. I like the Fact that he seemed to realize that other guys had it going and did other things.
by Robert Curre on Feb 20, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
I think team basketball includes defense
Anxiously awaiting the day my username will be appropriate
So, are you now insinuating that because Amar'e sucks on defense he is not a team player?
I get that defense is a huge part of the game. I also get that Amar’e isn’t very good defensively.
But really…. there are PLENTY of “stars” in the league who are also crappy on D.
Amar’e’s positives far outweigh his negatives.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 20, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Don't kid yourself.
Steve Nash, Dirk Nowitski, Pau Gasol, Zach Randolph, Blake Griffin…
People make the case for Monta Ellis being a weak defensive player as well. He does rack up a number of steals, but he tends to go for that steal everytime and his guy blows by him if he misses.
But this is just a handful of names without even blinking. There are more out there.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 20, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Player Defensive Efficiency ratings:
Amare 100.5
Dirk 96.2
Pau 97.3
Randolph 98.5
Griffin 99.1
Nash 100.3
The last 3 never won a championship. But even they are rated better than Amare. Dirk and Pau, who do have rings, are pretty good (tho not great) defenders.
I agree that there are plenty of other players who don’t defend well. My point is only that they don’t tend to win championships. To get the ring, you gotta do both. (Btw, I agree that this doesn’t mean Amare’s not a team player. He tries… but defense is just not in his DNA. And that’s a problem.)
If we're going to use championships as the measuring stick, I think the team's defense is immeasurably more important than an individual player's defensive aptitude.
Even if that individual player is Amare and he is terrible at it.
I dream of Eddy Curry feeding me fish sticks.
Look at it Dave. Look at it.
I'm simply pointing out that defense is one aspect of the game.
It’s not to excuse anyone for sucking at it. But you can do other things to compensate for the lack. And Amar’e does.
I’m just tired of the same arguments though. We knew what we were getting when we signed Amar’e and people love to harp on his defensive inefficiencies. But it’s easy to forget that there are plenty other big name players out there who have the same sorts of weaknesses.
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 21, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
He actually had a couple of nice defensive rotations in the 4th quarter that were key to the
team getting stops. Actually I have been pleased with Amare’s team defense since his return. He will never be a great one on one defender but his team D has actually not been bad.
by Robert Curre on Feb 20, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
Great two weeks of basketball
Beat who we’re supposed to beat (except NO) and took down 2 powerhouses in the Garden in nationally televised games
If anyone knows how to Photoshop a black beard and a white beard together, have at it
by Joamiq on Feb 19, 2012 6:27 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Haven't used Photoshop in a long time
But I think there’s a brush or something that can blend it together and you’ll get a nice, weird brownish salt-and-pepper color on the beard
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ha, reminds me of this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIMoQHpvFQQ
Epic rap battle time!
by Jeff Van Gumby on Feb 20, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
To my eye, I thought the Knicks closed out pretty poorly on shooters
Dirk got two or 3 pull-up 3s in transition, Lin rotated pretty late on Kidd a few times, and Jason Terry had a few open looks in transition, that luckily missed. Maybe I’m just being critical though?
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Well...yes
Dirk is Dirk and Terry is Terry. They weren’t bombing wide open looks very often but they were hitting em… Didn’t hit any to close out the game though
It's pretty great that we can have three different snipers on the floor at the same time too.
Stainer of mountaintops.
by Chairman Meow on Feb 19, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
3 snipers and 1 loose cannon!
:O!
Stainer of mountaintops.
by Chairman Meow on Feb 19, 2012 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
The Knicks did an effective job closing out
not a perfect job closing out. The Mavs who are a good 3pt shooting team shot 12-33. the obviously missed some, but they were generally ok this game. So yeah you are being a little too critical. But hey I am sure Woodson is pointing out the same things right now to the team.
by Robert Curre on Feb 20, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Was at the game today
& man that was a satisfying win.
I was still really skeptical about Lin (especially the turnovers), but fuck all that shit. The man’s a god. He can cough the ball up as much as he wants as long he hits timely shots & racks up double digit assists. He’s already getting superstar calls too (that tech on Terry was bullshit).
JR Smith…based on what I’ve heard about him, streaky shooting is what we can probably expect from him in most games & that’s what we got in this one. Not mad at all about this pickup, but I have a feeling he’ll drive me nuts very soon.
Someone needs to put Steve Novak in the 3 pt. shooting contest next week. His shot is so goddamn pretty that I swoon like a high school girl with a crush when he launches a trey. The title belt thing was also awesome.
Someone’s going to have to tell me what the hell happened in the last minute. I wasn’t paying attention to the shot clock so I thought Stat’s shot was totally legit & the goaltending call going to the Mavs didn’t look right to me. But what the hell happened when the game basically stopped & Chandler got a free dunk? I don’t think they ran a replay at MSG so I was confused as hell.
So happy I got to see this in person. Hopefully they don’t revert to Friday night’s Knicks against the Nets tomorrow & can build some momentum going into the all star break.
by DontShootToneyNOOO on Feb 19, 2012 6:41 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Did the clock stop in MSG?
It stopped on TV and we all thought a foul had been called or something, but then Lin threw it down to Chandler for the dunk and the clock jumped from like 21 to 8.
I wasn't checking the clock since it happened so awkwardly
everyone just stopped & but there wasn’t a whistle. Then Chandler got a free dunk. It was weird as hell.
by DontShootToneyNOOO on Feb 19, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
Stat's jumper from the right side was a fraction too late
…the 24-sec clock ran out with the ball still touching his hand.
The goaltending call correct too…. Tyson hit the rim while the shot was up.
So when does Dizzy show up
to tell us how the Knicks lost the last game because of D’Antoni’s system, but won this one only because of the players and D’Antoni is a jerk?
We should change his nickname to "Dizzybot"
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Dziaf only posts when the Knicks are in bad times.
It’s the Nets fan in him.
I dream of Eddy Curry feeding me fish sticks.
Look at it Dave. Look at it.
Lin is lucky DAntoni is PG friendly
it’s clearly a case of right guy right situation.
by I know smart people on Feb 19, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
The preceding three comments are all correct
Each is the best thing that could have happened to the other
Dear Jeremy Lin
I Choo choo choose you
Signed,
Mike DAntoni
by Jeff Van Gumby on Feb 20, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Loving J.R. Smith so far
Some good shots, some bad, but seemed totally cool with team basketball, and to me, the most important thing was how he was rushing to be the first guy to help Chandler up each time he took a hard fall. Loved seeing that, that alone endeared me to Smith big time.
by Wilson Chandlerstick Maker on Feb 19, 2012 6:43 PM EST reply actions
I think he's been assimilated into Linsanity just fine.
"Yeah, come on and let the good times roll
We're gonna stay here till we soothe our souls
If it take all night long"
u said it. most importantly
he was keeping the ball movement theme. passed well and shot when needed to. either we exaggerated the idea that he was a black hole…or he knows the idea and theme if this team right now.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
by semsemma on Feb 19, 2012 7:03 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I've seen Denver games where he can get black holish.
But I’ve also seen Denver games where he shot the team back into the game when nothing was going right. The spacing he’ll cause because of his long ball ability will be a great bonus in this offense. I think he’ll be fine overall.
a little Spree in him, no?
by chuckoakley90 on Feb 19, 2012 7:17 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Did he choke someone?
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by Russ on Feb 19, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I forgot who wrote it.
but they described Jr as a spree starks concoction
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
by semsemma on Feb 19, 2012 8:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Hm
Seems more athletic than both of them and probably less heart and hustle than Starks and less cool-ness than Spree. He’s got do A LOT for this team if he wants to get that comparison from me!
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I like him
The airplane with 3 fingers as he runs back on D and grabbing the New York on his Jersey after the next one, then playing tough D all game – keep it up JR!
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The three finger airplane isn't as good as Jared high fiving the courtside seats when he hits a ten foot jumper.
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by Chairman Meow on Feb 19, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
for starters, i like that he's rocking spree's #8
about time that number had some swag beneath it
"Why does green mean that's the color green? Why can't you say another word for green being green? Know what i'm saying?" - Stephon
by ny knickerbocker on Feb 19, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Excuse me but
Gallo was dripping swag, what are you talking about
Can't spell "Danilo Gallinaris" with out "swag"!
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Spree was a pretty unique beast to me
A guy with limited natural talent who was able to slash to the hole every time out of pure force of will. I think Smith is actually more talented, but he’s got a better outside shot and isn’t as good at getting to the rim.
Spree's drives to the hoop were like Derrick Rose's now
So much hang time and just able to contort his body every which way to get off the shot. Spree was a hell of a defender too.
But I agree, Smith might have more natural talent, and he’s a better shooter. Maybe a better passer too
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I really liked what I saw out of JR
I think if you have a coach who treats him like an adult instead of a problem child, you’ll see good things out of him . . . kind of cool of mike to give him so many minutes today. and he helped a lot while he was out there.
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I agree completely.
I think he really appreciated the trust Mikey D showed in him and that could be the best move he’s ever made. If Smith likes D’Antoni and plays hard for him, this is a huge steal.
Just remember your comment a month from now when JR has one of his moments
and you guys are all over D’Antoni for not screaming at him in public and threatening to kick his ass. It kind of cuts both ways, D’Antoni treats his players like men and expects them to act like it. When they don’t then that is where the problems lie. D’Antoni is not going to go nuts and bench JR for a few bad shots like Karl used to, but JR is going to have to buy in to the system and move the ball and improve his shot selection. That happens these two should be fine.
by Robert Curre on Feb 20, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Steve Novak makes me happy
https://twitter.com/stevenovak20/status/171377597480054785
Stainer of mountaintops.
I hope Novak stays on the team for a while
Definitely a glue guy that can make things happen if you work to get him open.Love “The Principal/ The Substitute Teacher” or whatever knickname ends up sticking!
haha I wouldn't call Novak Strokeavic a glue guy.
He does one thing extremely well, and everything else really poorly. A glue guy does everything well (a la Landry)
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by Chairman Meow on Feb 19, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
oh shoot
I mis-interpeted the definition
I thought a “glue guy” would be any guy that’s not a starter that is capable of holding the team together at any point.
whatever, he’s awesome. I’ll go with Van Gundy and say he’s the best pure shooter out there
He goes well with JJ and Tyson out there
would like to see them with Lin and Smith/Melo
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the three of them
with walker and lin were the guys that closed out the lakers. head-scratcher aint it?
I'll go with Seth here and call him 1.5 dimensional!
okay he’s got the shooting, but nowadays he can rebound too! and not too embarassingly bad on D
I'll go 1.75
sometimes he gets lucky!
"Yeah, come on and let the good times roll
We're gonna stay here till we soothe our souls
If it take all night long"
During our stretch where we had awful perimeter shooting we didnt use Novak which confused us
I guess in reality we just didnt have a PG that could get him the damn ball
Novak played early in the season
he didn’t impress. But I guess there is a difference between putting him on the floor with Toney Douglas and Mike Bibby and Lin.
by Robert Curre on Feb 20, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
steve novak has quickly become tied with jeffries for my favorite bench player
i can’t even get over how wet he is. unfortunately, i think he’s playing himself out of new york. i could see a team giving him more than the vet min next year, and i think he’s totally worth more than the vet min. jeffries might be too.
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soooooo
ur saying we have to bring home the chip THIS year? does sound good. with Novak Jr fields Lin. we have to get guys to take less to stay. one things for sure tho. Novak and Lin need to appreciate the system they are in. although Lin is capable of bringing his game elsewhere… I do think this system fits him very well
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
by semsemma on Feb 20, 2012 9:57 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
we're not going to keep JR unless amar'e gets moved for cap space or something big like that
and I don’t think jeffries, baron, and novak are guarantees for next year (although, I’m pretty positive baron will stick around)
so yeah, this might be the best knicks team for a while. J.R is huge. it will be very hard for us to find a talent to replace him. maybe if nash comes for the minimum.
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Stop trying to move Amare to suit your agenda
You are a Melo boy and that’s fine with me, however if Amare was not here, you would be making these comments on the Nets blog right now. So since Amare is the man who made all of this possible and came here when no one else wanted to, please stop the trade Amare stuff, as a Knicks fan I got to raise the loyalty flag here when that happens. Carmelo wouldn’t be here if not for him. He’d be a Net and talking about going home to Brooklyn! So please stop.
by Robert Curre on Feb 20, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
not a melo fan, i'm a knicks fan ...
and i’ve criticized carmelo for this season too …
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Got that new track off that new J-Lin album
features several knicks/J-Lin fan
here you go………..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxcFZkVmuQc
Still waiting to here a Shump track about the knicks and j-lin
Enter The Garden of Lin
beautiful
this won a grammy right?
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Feb 19, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know how many times my head can explode with total joy.
But it did it again today and I’m learning to love it. This was so worth waiting a decade for…
by Sprewell on Feb 19, 2012 7:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
if they lose, 15-15, Knicks at 16-16
"It seemed that Brandon's financial manager had speculated in some kind of futures and lost everything...Mary could not rid her mind of the word "speculate." It meant to guess, in terms of money to gamble. How could a man gamble a college?"
From the short story, In the Garden of North American Martyrs--Tobias Wolff
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
Knicks are 9 games back atm and C’s are 8.5, so if the C’s lose, tie I would guess.
"It seemed that Brandon's financial manager had speculated in some kind of futures and lost everything...Mary could not rid her mind of the word "speculate." It meant to guess, in terms of money to gamble. How could a man gamble a college?"
From the short story, In the Garden of North American Martyrs--Tobias Wolff
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
Rondo ejected for throwing b-ball at official (2 T's), probably did not deserve it by what he did
"It seemed that Brandon's financial manager had speculated in some kind of futures and lost everything...Mary could not rid her mind of the word "speculate." It meant to guess, in terms of money to gamble. How could a man gamble a college?"
From the short story, In the Garden of North American Martyrs--Tobias Wolff
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
oh thanks for clearing it up... tied division record
but Boston has a better conf. record. So, they’re still 7 until we beat the Nets tomorrow
Thanks man
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Blazer question
Have you guys given up on Oden? Such a shame.
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by Chairman Meow on Feb 19, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
Yahoo Sports reported
he cant even get cleared for surgery because of the clot in his ankle. Someone actually broke down his income over the years and found out he’s made almost 800k for every of basketball he’s played. =O
nice of you
we’re all still rooting for Felt over here too, best of luck to ya.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Feb 19, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
Your profile quote
Awesome, awesome. First album I bought; still listening to it all the time 18 (holy crap) years later.
Just like grandma made when we couldn't find sleep!
Ah man, I love that album!
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whoa
i feel so insignificant now
"Yeah, come on and let the good times roll
We're gonna stay here till we soothe our souls
If it take all night long"
it is now
if it wasn’t already
"Yeah, come on and let the good times roll
We're gonna stay here till we soothe our souls
If it take all night long"
now that's cool!
I’m still suffering through orgo, studying syntheses while watching ball.
But I’m LINspired to study hard these days!
fo sho
"Yeah, come on and let the good times roll
We're gonna stay here till we soothe our souls
If it take all night long"
aaaaand now suzzee goes back to not posting again
I dream of Eddy Curry feeding me fish sticks.
Look at it Dave. Look at it.
seriously, Don,
THAT’S WHY THERE ARE NEVER ANY LADIES ON HERE
"Yeah, come on and let the good times roll
We're gonna stay here till we soothe our souls
If it take all night long"
was it suzee I drove away last time too ? hahaha
sorry guys. Damn. Next time I need to be bound and gagged.
Whoa, that sounds hot too.
and didn't you guys both say the exact same thing the last time it happened
damn this is epic De Ja Vu
I think last time it was that girl who was a Lakers fan now, I just remembered
I'm here!
Distracted by my roomate playing NBA2k12 and hearing “Here’s George Jetson!” 5mins later “His boy, Elroy!”
Alas, today is the day we will always remember as the day the first day steve novak brought out the belt. Go Knicks!
if only we could be so lucky
my reaction was somewhere along the lines of “he did what?!?!?! no he didnt! im completely ok with this!”
If the game aired on MSG
Im pretty sure the freeze cam would of been of Novak and his “discount double check” Lol greatest moment in the game
i came
alive after that happened
"Yeah, come on and let the good times roll
We're gonna stay here till we soothe our souls
If it take all night long"
I creamed
my face with sunblock. I don’t want the ultraviolet rays on my flawless skin. There are risks of skin cancer, wrinkles, and other related skin defects that can result from not using proper sun protection.
I just blue myself
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by Russ on Feb 19, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Boston is losing
to Detroit. The Knicks may move into that 7th spot.
lucky number 7!
"Yeah, come on and let the good times roll
We're gonna stay here till we soothe our souls
If it take all night long"
with a win tomorrow
I think since we have equal win % and equal div record, it goes to conf. record, which they have better than us
with a win tomorrow we have both a better win % and division record, so that’s when we would pass them.
Am I right?
Great great game.
This one was truly satisfying…. Lin was getting trapped and double teamed and still finished with 28/14. JR Fits in nicely from day one, this guy is gonna be great to have when Melo is sitting.
The thing that already makes me surprised is how much more “oomph” our offense has with Lin in… I love Shump and his aggressive D, but when he was running point in the second it was not even close to the same.
I’m liking this game moving forward… getting Melo back will get us as good as a starting 5 as anyone in the league. Let’s get him back and allow him to gel with Lin so they are on the same page for the playoffs.
Great win Knicks.
I'm ALL- IN. Do whatever it takes to get Andrew Luck or RGIII to Miami in 2012.
Laces out!
-2008 AFC East Champions-
BRANDON MARSHALL- FUTURE MIAMI HOF WR!!!!!
Tom Brandstater- more TD's than completions. Last person to tell him that's not possible, well, nobody has seen him since.
let's GO DEEEEE TROIT
clap, clap clapclap
by I know smart people on Feb 19, 2012 8:13 PM EST reply actions
how in the name of god does boston get blown out by that team twice in a row . ..
although, I think detroit has some decent talent, and I think greg monroe is the man.
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well
kg was out. and they’re already thin at the frontcourt. rondo was ejected too. but I agree…Monroe is playing well and Ben Gordon is back for them.
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
by semsemma on Feb 20, 2012 9:58 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
hey business idea for Dolan
make the games videos available for download after the game. I would pay 2.99 to watch them again.
by I know smart people on Feb 19, 2012 8:18 PM EST reply actions
Think all teams should do this in all sports.
1 or 2 weeks after game, make it purchasable. There’s really not much to gain by keeping the film away from the public.
I don't know why we can't get them on MSG's on demand channel
I mean why else would you have an on demand sports channel if not to have on demand game replays? At least give us the edited Knicks in 60!?!
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Feb 19, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Knicks in 60 is so annoying
They show the usual 5-10 minutes of pregame stuff with Clyde and Breen, then there’s like 3 or 4 commercial breaks, so you get to see highlights of like 45 minutes of the game, which if you watch NBA basketball, really only equals like 3 minutes of each quarter because of all the whistles and time stoppage
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I find myself singing Sweeney Todd songs during games nowadays
I’m definitely creeping my family out when I talk about slashing Dirk’s throat and cooking him into a meat pie
Detroit up
by 15. Can’t wait til we play Boston again so we can wipe that smug look off Paul pierce’s face..
by skyballer on Feb 19, 2012 8:23 PM EST via Android app reply actions
having a seance at my house
with the Ouija board. TD says hello and that he is doing fine.
by I know smart people on Feb 19, 2012 8:29 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Give him my regards and politely ask him to stop haunting my house and screaching DWTDD
nonstop. It’s quite irritating and not at all frightening.
Tried but is not responding
seems like he picked up his dribble and went away. Something’s never change.
by I know smart people on Feb 19, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Detroit up 20
less than 4 min remaining. Stick a fork in em we are headed to the 6th spot!
by I know smart people on Feb 19, 2012 8:32 PM EST reply actions
Boston implosion!
We’re trending in opposite directions!
Speaking of which, against the Nets, we were both 8-15
Knicks 8-1 (one loss against a really bad team)
Nets 1-8 (one win against a really good team)
Talk about opposite trends!
Boston has lost twice to Detroit recently no?
someone posted that they thought Boston was ready for a dive. Predicted they would not make the playoffs. Looking like a nice call. Keeping my fingers crossed.
by I know smart people on Feb 19, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
Cavs just won also going to 12-17. Boston better watch out
"It seemed that Brandon's financial manager had speculated in some kind of futures and lost everything...Mary could not rid her mind of the word "speculate." It meant to guess, in terms of money to gamble. How could a man gamble a college?"
From the short story, In the Garden of North American Martyrs--Tobias Wolff
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
In a little while, Knicks will be way ahead of Celtics
Cs are done. If either Cavs or Bucks start heating up – even just a little – Celtics could easily miss the playoffs this year…. it’s that bad over there. ….Been following them for years, and this is the end of the road for the Big 3 (or 4… whatever).
i totally called this after last year's playoffs
they’re just too old. kg is reallllyyyyyyyy old.
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still wouldn't want to play them in the first round of the playoffs.
They are old and old guys sometimes can steal games.
by Robert Curre on Feb 20, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
I really really want to play them.
And then instead of a post-game huddle at center court at “The Other” Garden, the entire 15-man roster lines up and starts taking bows after Game 5. Because I’m petty like that. Why? Because fuck Paul Pierce that’s why.
Even better if they somehow lose KG and Paul Pierce and we sweep them so Boston fans can say the same shit we were saying last year, only without any sense of irony.
I dream of Eddy Curry feeding me fish sticks.
Look at it Dave. Look at it.
I sauntered over here to post that Boston was about to lose
And realized I’d been beaten to it by many people. Go pistons.
and unlike after a loss, where we like to post some angry comments and hide in a corner
after a win we’re still alive and kicking in the thread
Minnie is giving Philly trouble too
dare I dream it?
by I know smart people on Feb 19, 2012 8:40 PM EST reply actions
theoretically
if a lot of the top teams implode and we continue our success, we could climb to the 3-5 seed
rubio is fun to watch
he was going to be the NBA story this year till it became the year of the Lin.
by I know smart people on Feb 19, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
it would be great to snag the third seed
hopefully miami would be 1 and chicago 2 because i would rather avoid miami as long as possible. am i getting ahead of myself? yes.
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nah ur nit getting ahead.
I firmly believe the Atlantic div is ours. and with Miami and Chicago being 1-2. the rest seems open to me. and I doubt we finish as the 7 or 8th seed
"they try to do what he do, and been where he's been, but they get folded in two.....he's the dude"
by semsemma on Feb 20, 2012 10:00 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I dunno. Philly's no marshmallow right now.
I dream of Eddy Curry feeding me fish sticks.
Look at it Dave. Look at it.
i like marshmallows
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Feb 20, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
at this point
any team we face will be scared to face us..even Magic admitted that..
by skyballer on Feb 19, 2012 8:46 PM EST via Android app reply actions
god is basketball really back in New York?
too good to be true!
by I know smart people on Feb 19, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
I was at UT in Austin
And we went to watch the 4th by one of the 5 ridiculously nice courts they have at one of the gyms, watching with a couple other guys. And we were flipping out
All we do is Lin, Lin, Lin no matter WHAT
by Simon Says Jets on Feb 19, 2012 9:02 PM EST reply actions
Trade
are they going to trade the house, the logo, the future and everything left for Howard like the Knicks did for Melo
by Lawrence9ers on Feb 19, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
How so?
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its not
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Feb 19, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
Cs are done
They will fall under .500 tomorrow night, and will probably never reach that high again this year. It’s over over there….full rebuild mode soon.
Michael Jordan
looking at the NBA standing is kinda hilarious, everyone have less than 6 points diff, and Bocraps at 14.3
Tickets are SO EXPENSIVE now
I work right next to the Prudential Center so I was looking at prices for when the Knicks play NJ in April. Cheapest ticket on stubhub? $175.
I got two tickets on StubHub...
in section 340 for the Jazz game for $22 apiece. It was Lin’s first start — took my son and we had a blast.
I hope he enjoyed it, because I took a peek at StubHub for Friday against the Hornets — cheapest was $180, in the 400 level!!!
JR Just twat this.... pretty cool. Looks like he's on board!
JR Smith @TheRealJRSmith
Greatest basketball feeling ive had! RT @JCrossover: @TheRealJRSmith —yessir! How it feel playing in the Garden as one of their own??
JCrossover being Jamal Crawford of course.
Hope he enjoys it since he's almost definitely gone next year.
Stainer of mountaintops.
by Chairman Meow on Feb 19, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
We have to use our MLE on Lin
And there’s really no money left after that. Of course, JR might not exercise his player option, but he probably is gonna want a big paycheck after this year, so that’s not likely.
Stainer of mountaintops.
by Chairman Meow on Feb 19, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Never know...
local guy, might be willing to stay another year and hope we can sign him to a better deal after next season. Long shot though.
If he stays next year he can get a bigger deal here because he will have bird rights.
but it really depends on what he and his agent think are out there.
by Robert Curre on Feb 20, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
I would be shocked if Chicago or another team that desperately needs an SG as that "final piece" doesn't put in a financially restrictive bid if/when he opts out this summer.
I’m already expecting some team to offer Jeremy a $5million contract this summer just so we have to match and hamstring us from making any other real impactful signings. Could totally see Indiana doing that because Kevin Pritchard is a bitchard.
I dream of Eddy Curry feeding me fish sticks.
Look at it Dave. Look at it.
I thought that Bird rights were after three years with a team
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"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
We inherited his contract when we picked him off of waivers, so I think it now comes into play iirc.
I dream of Eddy Curry feeding me fish sticks.
Look at it Dave. Look at it.
According to Wikipedia, Bird rights are lost if a player is waived
To qualify as a Bird free agent, a player must have played three seasons without being waived or changing teams as a free agent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_salary_cap#Larry_Bird_exception
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No two years, you get early bird
It would be three to get full bird.
by Robert Curre on Feb 20, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
If JR will go for that, then we're in good shape
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and if it's just one year, you get the dirty bird
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by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 21, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Second time Jamal has tweeted about the Knicks and JR Smith
Sounds like Crawford’s regretting his decision…?
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some people watch jenna jameson on their computer, I watch Lin on my laptop hooked up to my tv
2012 New York Mets, World Series Champions!
After watching the highlights
I realized Lin needs an ESPN 30 for 30
Bill Simmons has already said there will be one
When Jeremy Lin plays basketball, the deaf hear music.
they don't let Chupacabra out of the arena at night
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
by Rorschach44 on Feb 19, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
Anybody else see this?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_jeremy_lin_dantoni_system_knicks_021912
"If you play 46 minutes (a game) in this league, you have an opportunity to put up some nice numbers," Terry said. "Again, it is what it is. He’ll have to maintain this pace. It’s going to be tough. Ask anybody: Give them an opportunity, ball in their hands, 20-plus shots and you better do something."
Always liked Jason Terry, but this is hella lame. Calls Lin’s play 95% because of the system. I mean, whatever, who cares. Lin’s doing it better than 98% of the PGs in the league right now and he just dropped 28, 14, 4, and 5 in a win over the Mavs so, fuck off Jason Terry
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yea whether its true or not who cares dantoni's our coach and theyre a perfect match and were gonna be good because of it
so let him cry all he wants
easy fellas easy. Lin will erase all doubts when he is putting up numbers
for Phil Jackson next year. Because the Knicks are starting to look really good and you know what happens when a team starts to look good and Phil is unemployed. “Excuse me Mike, Del Harris and Doug Collins are on the phone and they would like a word with you….”
by Robert Curre on Feb 20, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
that's BS
he just got wrecked by Jeremy Lin and he’s trying to downplay an amazing performance where they threw every defensive look at him.
Now, IMO it’s something like 70-30—→ 70% Lin’s ability, 30% D’Antoni’s system
It’s a perfect marriage where D’Antoni has a system that can exemplify the strengths of a young, versatile, and fucking awesome point guard
by DonMoosavi on Feb 19, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
actually now ive learned that Terry said this before he faced him
Kobe didnt believe until he faced Lin himself
I can deal with Terry not believing until being wrecked
If it's the system, then damn this is some nice system.
It doesn’t matter what system a player is playing in, it’s if they are producing in it and Jeremy Lin certainly is producing.
A void? I see no void!
Extremely stupid comment by Terry
not worth the pixels answering
Doug Gottlieb
said the same and also that jimmer would be doing similar if not better things with the same system and team. Also if DG was picking a team and could build around jimmer or lin for PG, he would take jimmer who is more talented. Also, said lin could be a one-hit wonder like the macarena and to enjoy it while it lasts. then says u cant analyze lin bc ppl call u a hater. i think this might have been after toronto but not sure
by negativeuniverse on Feb 20, 2012 2:02 AM EST up reply actions
doug gottlieb is a bitter scrub
who probably has a world view centered on the premise that he could have been something in the NBA had he just been given the chance which causes him to be completely delusional.
dougie didn’t even average that many points in college ball. couldn’t shoot a lick.
i mean, you’re delusional if you don’t think lin’s stats are bolstered by the system, but he’s a really good pick and roll player and really good at finishing at the rim. we’ve seen raymond felton (a stud in college) be far less successful in that system. it’s not like anyone can just waltz in and play d’antoni point guard and average 20+ points.
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Gottlieb can't analyze Lin because he is an idiot
can anyone name one time that the guy was right. Hey I know I am often wrong, but Gottlieb supposedly gets paid because he is an expert. I am still waiting for Cole Aldrich to be that breakout star! I am also waiting for the Knicks to regret taking Landry Fields over Lance Stephenson.
by Robert Curre on Feb 20, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Relax, it's just gamesmanship
We shouldn’t expect a blowjob from Jason Terry (or any other opponent) after his team loses to the Knicks. These guys are amazingly competitive. Terry had some plenty fair things to say about Lin as well, though.
From Mavs Moneyball’s post-game quotes-
(Pregame Opinion on Jeremy Lin) "I’ve been a point guard in this league and 45 turnovers in seven games would have gotten me on the bench real fast. He’s in D’Antoni’s system, and any player that plays a guard position in D’Antoni’s system has opportunities to be able to put up good numbers, and I think that’s what he’s been able to do. The ball’s in your hands a lot and you’re going to have turnovers. I think it’s a lot of hype right now. Is he going to be a good player in the future? If he continues to work, he will. But given the opportunity, he’s taken advantage of it. But everybody’s making a lot out of just the seven games he’s played. I’ve been in the league 13 years, and seven games don’t necessarily make a career, but he does have great buzz right now. But we’ll see when he face the champs tonight.’
(On Lin then actually playing decent with 28-14-5) "I still feel that way,. He’s going to put up numbers with the ball in his hands. How can he not? But he surprised me by staying aggressive. I’m proud of him, watching his journey and where he’s come from. He’s persevered and he’s shown a lot of toughness. It definitely surprised me. He’s a tough kid, and tonight he showed it.’’
The same goes for Kobe. People are talking to these guys about their opponents before they play. Are we really supposed to expect them to gush about the Knicks??
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 20, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Which I guess can put even more weight on the good things that they DID say about us.
It’s a weird feeling for this Knick fan. Usually if you’re a Knick fan you get shit for it from everyone, even when you’re winning, but this is just weird. Everyone’s being so nice. Chris Broussard is jumping on the bandwagon. Even Jon Barry said something nice.
ugh, I think I liked it better the way it was before if we’ve got those two onboard.
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Look at it Dave. Look at it.
Yeah, I like that people are excited.
But Chris Broussard can stop trying to pretend he is an analyst. He is simply a dude who checks Twitter a lot and reads a bunch of basketball articles. He brings no sort of original thought or insight. He’s like Ahmad Rashad-lite.
I DID dig that Jon Barry said he was wrong about Lin after watching im play though. That was real honest about it too.
I did kinda like having a chip on my shoulder though!!
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 20, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Is he playing tomorrow?
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Anyone else watching OKC-DEN?
It’s headed to overtime. Durant has 45; they were down 5 with like 20 seconds left and he hit a three then dunked it off an inbounds to tie it.
But he is Durant, so so its totally believable
Durant is all sorts of amazing.
A void? I see no void!
So that'd put Durant at #1 until Wil Chandler gets back from China, no?
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Until JLin moves to the SF position
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What makes Durant truly amazing is he can dunk while getting a blowjob from Skip Bayless.
does that man ever take Durant’s cock out of his mouth?
by Robert Curre on Feb 20, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Durant, Westbrook, Perkins and I believe Ibaka are all locked up already
Maybe not Ibaka I dont know, but if not they’ll have bird rights on him and Harden when’s available for an extension.
Just need to improve their supporting cast a little more in my opinion
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perkins is a stupid contract for a slow, unskilled center, and i've been saying that for a year
jeffries > perkins. true story.
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I think they have to choose between Harden and Ibaka. Not sure they can keep both.
by 100% dundee on Feb 19, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
Westbrook took less money so they could keep both
(typically, ESPN did not report this)
TYBG
by The Rooster on Feb 19, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
dammit ESPN.
Standup move by Westbrook though, then, even though he totally can’t play PG.
Rose decides not to go 1-on-2 and I was thinking, "what are you doing?! You've got the numbers!" -Zach Harper, Daily Dime Live
classy move on his part.
Not a Thunder fan but it’s always impressive when a player is actually willing to take a paycut to help his team out. As fans we throw that suggestion out there all the time but it almost never happens.
IMO Amare needs to set his picks more authoritatively
Maybe he’s sore or something, but it seems like he’s been half assing the picks and as a result the defenders have been able to blow by him without being impeded. When Chandler sets them he gets wide and makes sure to make contact and jar the on ball defender. Amare just seems to stand there tall and the dude can just slip past him. I don’t know if he’s hurt, or just feeling left out or whatever, but it seems pretty evident to my naked untrained eye.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
Havent seen him in many PnR. I forgot who was saying it but they showed that sometime Lin is too quick in his PnR that he doesnt let Chandler get to set an actual pick b4 he starts moving. But Ive seen Amar’e set the pick a few times but Lin just couldnt get him the ball because he either wasnt looking or there was a defender there.
yeah, amar'e has been setting weak screens
i don’t know if he always did that and nash just didn’t care, but it’s clearly a problem with his and lin’s pick and roll game.
threre were definitely a couple of times where stat was wide open and his teammates missed him though.
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It was more than just a couple times...
At times it looks like he gets purposely ignored. When players are looking to pass to Jefferies before they do Amare, what’s the point of having him on the floor? Amare given a 50% effort is a better offensive player than Jefferies at 100%.
And he has always set picks like that. Nash never had problems with it. They were arguably the best pick n’ roll combo in the game with him setting picks like that.
And Felton had his best assist numbers with Amare setting picks like that.
by Mizzie on Feb 20, 2012 6:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
watching lin's game against the nets
Mike Breen stated
“toney douglas is a better shooter, a better scorer, a better player” compared to Lin
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
by Chiefshero on Feb 19, 2012 11:32 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, that line is in the Youtube clip I kept of that game too
Too too funny….
Cracks me up.
Even if an announcer thinks so, how can you just say that about a bench player coming into the game who was rarely getting playing time. Breen came across as a total ass.
Can we call Lin, Fields, Novak, Jefferies,and Tyson the "A-Team" lol
when something seems to be going wrong thats who pringles seems to put out there and its working
Nonono
Tyson is clearly Mr. T. His name starts with T, he already has the beard, and he’s the muscle.
Lin is the leader dude.
Fields is the face because he’s so pretty
And clearly Novak is the crazy explosives guy (Jeffries counts as part of Novak because I’m currently researching ways to meld them into a single player).
Do the Shumpty Shump, come on and do the Shumpty Shump
anybody watching ESPN?
2 weeks ago, only two players had 10+ points/game
add lin, 6 people had 10+ points today
crazy
Well, it's gonna be the 2nd of a back-to-back for the Knicks, 3rd in 4 nights
They’ll get to sleep at around 3am that day, if they’re lucky. Meanwhile, the Heat played today Sunday, then Tuesday, then Thursday…. all at home.
HUGE schedule and home-court advantage for Miami. So this sets up a NO-LOSE situation for NY. If they win, it’ll be the coup de gras to a ridiculous transformation, Linsantity squared, etc., etc. If they lose, well… it wasn’t really a fair fight.
But either way, I bet they put up a helluva fight.
Baron and Melo will def. be playing by then.
Fresh infusion of dynamic minutes.
He's made me cry
several times, and I am rooting for him
Lin Your Face Calderon... Toronto 2/14/2012...JFL
Lebron always cries
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talk about a way to guarantee not selling a single tie
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Look at it Dave. Look at it.
Thank you Mark Cuban.
"It wasn’t luck because there were how many other teams that could have signed Jeremy and the Knicks were the ones who went out and got him," Cuban said. "So they saw something and they were smart enough to go out and get him.
Saw a Palo Alto crew member behind the NYK bench
in a name of a not so famous Mark Zuckerberg…That’s right! 4:30min down in the first quarter right after JR Smith’s first trey..Or maybe a doppleganger?
Love your work Seth
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i'm going to make a rare defense of stoudemire
and say that his -18 on the game had a lot to do with him being out with that horribly misguided lin/fields/shumpert/amar’e/tyson line-up. i have no idea why d’antoni did that. two pick and roll big men and no shooters. that’s when lin got like three turnovers in a row because every single defender was guarding the pick and roll. i was yelling at my tv that at least one of jr or novak had to be put in, and thankfully d’antoni answered my prayers and put in both, resulting in us closing the gap.
but i dunno what was up with those air balls.
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one game plus minus isn't worth anything.
Consistent pattern of constantly having minuses or pluses is worth a lot more.
Also congrats
To the dude who won the car last night. He had to hit 5 free throws in a row and then nail a half court shot. The Garden must’ve erupted.
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I can't help but think Andy Rautins would love being on this team right now.
Him, Landry, and Jeremy would be total bffs ;)
Plus he’d probably actually get some minutes.
I think Rautins would have gotten jealous
when Jeremy had a sleep over at Landry’s.
It could have caused terrible trust issues in this team, and a big division in the camp.
Team Landry FTW
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This is a valid point.
I can see some kind of horror movie playing out in that three way buddy relationship. Andy probably in all truth just stares at his twitter timeline in disgust.
holy shit
My dad and I were saying Jones looked like Marlo too
by JC25FoMVP on Feb 20, 2012 9:47 AM EST via mobile reply actions
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