Iman Shumpert and Joe Johnson are both out tonight and beyond.
by Seth on Feb 22, 2012 10:05 AM EST
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PrintHello. I have some good news and some bad news. I'm not entirely sure what's what, though. I guess you can determine that yourself. Your first news item regards Joe Johnson of the Hawks, who has left the team with a knee injury and won't return until after the All-Star break. For the Knicks' purposes, that means two things: 1. He will not play tonight against the Knicks. 2. He will not play in the All-Star Game, which may allow somebody like Tyson Chandler or Jerome Jordan to be named an injury replacement.
The news about Johnson is good for the Knicks tonight, and potentially good-bad for the Knicks over the break depending on whether you'd rather see Chandler in the All-Star game or at home resting with his wrists healing in hyperbaric chambers.
The second bit of news is that Iman Shumpert, who missed the last game with knee tendinitis, will miss tonight's game (same link) and probably the Heat game on Thursday as well. Shump's knee injury, like Johnson's, will affect his All-Star status. Shump (and by proxy, Jeremy Lin) was scheduled to be a dunk participant, but it sounds like he'll be ceding his spot to Jeremy Evans of the Jazz. This one's bad-good, I think, because it's a bummer that Iman's out for some time, but good that he'll be resting his knees instead of testing his knees (whoa, I just got a "level up" and a pair of crocodile loafers appeared at my feet!) over the break. Oh, and Jeremy Evans is GREAT.
This has either been the good-bad report or the bad-good report. Thank you and/or you're welcome and/or sorry.
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Tis a shame about Shump
but I’d rather he spend some time resting and the letting the inflammation subside than continuing to pound away on it and just make it worse, as I understand he’s been doing.
Really don’t want Tyson at the ASG either if I’m honest. Hopefully Shump and Chandler will miss out and use the disappointment of that to fire their point-to-prove second halves of the season.
As for Johnson. Meh. Let them worry about us. I was right about the Nets loss and I’m still picking an OT Knicks win tonight!
by london_balling on Feb 22, 2012 10:12 AM EST reply actions
Seth...
you sir, you are hilarious.
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by Lord Smackington on Feb 22, 2012 10:22 AM EST via Android app reply actions
eh
posi..tive ....thoughts..?
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by gymtanlandry on Feb 22, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
Shhhh...
If you keep telling him that then he’ll eventually believe it and the monster inside his head will grow louder and then he’ll try harder to be funnier and it won’t work so well and everything will spiral out of all control and Seth will become a shell of a man, telling one-liners to strangers on street corners in a desperate attempt to have just one more person tell him he’s hilarious before he dies alone in a car park!
Trust me, I used to be hilarious too. :(
by london_balling on Feb 22, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
you sound like that cable commercial that tells you to switch providers.
posi..tive ....thoughts..?
@krishhhayyy
by gymtanlandry on Feb 22, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
i love those commercials
“DONT WAKE UP IN A ROADSIDE DITCH!”
by blackhova on Feb 22, 2012 11:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
love the one wih the roadside ditch.
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by Lord Smackington on Feb 22, 2012 11:21 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I am partial to the Blake Griffin commercials
especially the one in the beauty parlor when the spinning ball comes to rest on his fingertip as he stairs the lady down. Having said that I am sort of bummed that Shumpert will probably miss the Miami game. We could have used his
D.
Fire D'Umbphoney...not wise at the moment
What I am looking for tonight is
1. Melo to be a little more relaxed and consistent
2. More effective substitutions by D’antoni
3. A better all around defensive effort
4. Better pick and roll execution from Lin and STAT/Chandler
by skyballer on Feb 22, 2012 11:19 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
lol
what I’m looking for tonight is a win. I don’t care how, but preferably in the manner you just suggested.
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by Lord Smackington on Feb 22, 2012 11:26 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
2. More effective substitutions by D’antoni
?
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by Rorschach44 on Feb 22, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you didnt read the daily news?
Don’t expect Anthony to come out Wednesday against the Hawks looking any more comfortable. He might have a better shooting night, but these things don’t happen by magic. D’Antoni is a believer in giving his players some rest during a heavy schedule — four games in five days — and didn’t schedule a practice for Tuesday. He also wasn’t planning to hold a shootaround before the game on Wednesday.
That means the Melo who takes the court at the Garden essentially will be the exact same Melo who finished the game against the Nets. He will not have received a single instructional training session in the interim. He won’t have worked with Lin or Smith. He won’t have been told during training to move his butt back on defense, another sore spot.
by STICKODYNAMITE on Feb 22, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
got it. i dont do it much so i hope i remember the next time i do :(
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by STICKODYNAMITE on Feb 22, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
link to daily news article..
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by STICKODYNAMITE on Feb 22, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind seeing either Melo or Amare taking 20 shots.
I want one of them to be very aggressive like they were last year. If 2 or 3 guys on the team got it going(and there are several who can) this could be a deadly offense.
number one reason i'm excited for this game is to see this guy spin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm1g60_TqZU
hopefully he gets off the pine.
Geesh what is it
The Nets have a rule that they have to sign anybody with the name Williams and the Hawks have to sign every guy named Johnson that they can get there hands on? LOL
by Robert Curre on Feb 22, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
Probably makes sense the best thing for Tendinitis is rest
plus the arrival of JR Smith means there is less pressure on D’Antoni to have to play Shumpert. Let him rest up and be ready to go for the second half of the season.
Was thinking the same thing...
with so much depth, rather than wondering who will play and then second-guessing it… might be better to let Shump get fully healthy. Someone will probably break down and be injured once he’s ready to come back anyway. ;-)
Gonna miss him in the Heat game though....
could use that D.
actually Joe being out is not good news
With out Joe demanding an ISO every other trip down the floor, the hawks might actually be forced to move the ball and run plays. So that could be a problem. Als the Knicks have not had a great record this year when they have played teams missing their top people.
The Hawks? Run plays?
No way.
Rose decides not to go 1-on-2 and I was thinking, "what are you doing?! You've got the numbers!" -Zach Harper, Daily Dime Live
Yep they might actually half two
Larry Drew might actually get a stiffy during the game! “I GOT A PLAYBOOK DAMMIT AND I AND NOT AFRAID TO USE IT! Until Josh Smith comes over and says, umm coach What’s this stuff called plays you are talking about?” SMH The hawks are the NBA’s version of the Chargers talented enough to make you think they could really do something, but they never seem to.
by Robert Curre on Feb 22, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
So what you're saying is the Knicks are this year's "Hawks"
I dream of Eddy Curry feeding me fish sticks.
Look at it Dave. Look at it.
Nah
They’re this year’s Giants. Talented enough to make you scratch your head when they keep on losing in the regular season, but have enough good individuals to pull together and come together as a team during the end of the season, playing their best during the playoffs and causing numerous upsets.
New York Knicks = Sleeping Giants
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The Knicks roster is far more talented than what the Giants had coming into the season
I see what you’re aiming at, but I don’t think it’s an apt comparison
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How specific does a comparison have to be?
"Madison Square Garden is the ultimate basketball stage. That's where I belong. That's where I live. That's the home of the New York Knicks." - Amar'e Stoudemire
by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 22, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't say anything about being specific
Just saying that the expectations and rosters for both teams coming into the season were pretty different, and probably too different to make an accurate comparison
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Meh
It’s simply the idea that neither team was considered a championship threat. The Giants came together at the right time of the season (and they DID begin the season with considerable talent).
The Knicks look to be on a very similar path. I think we can all picture them meshing late in the season (after finally getting healthy) in time for a playoff run. Now, I’m not clamoring for a title this year… but I wouldn’t count anything out in a shortened season either.
Sorry if it sounds like I’m jumping all over this. Not trying to stir anything I promise!
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by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 22, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
kind of reminds me of the Knicks when Carmelo's out of the lineup
better ball movement, better team. Why do these teams keep these assholes anyway…..
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by Rorschach44 on Feb 22, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Let us not forget....
Dolan tried to stuff 100Million down Joe Johnson’s throat last year.
Sometimes, the Gods just smile on the Knicks and save them from themselves.
Frees up
some Josh Smith jumpers. Thanks Joe!
"But when he saw it, he just put his hands up and they couldn’t give it to him. It just fell to the ground, I-I don’t, you know … So, that showed me he had great experience..." - Jeff Van Gundy
by Anthony Bonner's Subpoena on Feb 22, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
how many more level ups until the coveted cowhide blazer?
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Feb 22, 2012 12:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
He has to rhyme the word orange
With a basketball term, and relate it to the Knicks. Then, he gets a congratulatory email from Clyde.
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Tyson Chandler in the blue and orange
setting screens like a door-hinge
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
by Taylor Made on Feb 22, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice!
He’s got a bad throat but Landry needs no lozenge
Cos there’s no medi-cine like the blue and orange
by london_balling on Feb 22, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
This also can be considered
as bad-bad news or good-good news. Just to cover all the mathematical possibilities :-)
I just want everyone to rest up and be as close to 100% as possible. I feel like we're following some kind of Jets blueprint with all these one-year players filling out our roster and talking championship.
And if we’re really gonna go down that road, I’d like to see that team at 100% healthy which I haven’t seen once this season yet.
God I hope we win tonight. I sometimes feel like I’ve been waiting for Melo to be Melo all season, but he keeps getting randomly injured. I want to feel that “automatic” feeling whenever he shoots again, instead of a variant of “Jeffrightened”. And stop aiming your shots Amare. Just “take a picture” and then let it fly.
I dream of Eddy Curry feeding me fish sticks.
Look at it Dave. Look at it.
Wait a second
Joe Johnson was an All-Star this year? Good lord, the East is so wack.
Honestly though, how many good SGs are in the league right now, let alone the East?
I feel like that’s the poorest position in the NBA right now. The new hotness is SF.
I dream of Eddy Curry feeding me fish sticks.
Look at it Dave. Look at it.
Josh Smith honestly deserves the call-up
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I actually feel Landry is better off against Lebron
and Melo goes Wade (since he elevates his defense when playing good competition usually).
Landry vs Bron and Melo vs Wade sounds like a better chance than Landry vs Wade and Melo vs Lebron. Like someone mentioned, Landry seems better defensively when he doesn’t have to chase through screens… and I think Wade does much more of that than Lebron does. IMO.
Reading that again...
sounds like I was trying set a record for the number of names included… sorry bout that!
with all the switching the knicks do....
… does it matter who is ‘assigned’ to guard anyone?
Don't really care about tonight
We’ll be fine, with or without Shump. Especially since Joe Johnson isn’t playing. But he’d be very, very important in the game against the Heat. A perimiter defender as good as Iman against Wade and Lebron would be huge in stopping them from going to the rim (yes, they shoot a lot of 3s, but still).
Because the rest given to him against the Nets was supposed to be a one time thing, I hope the Knicks front office is thinking “Well, rest him against the Hawks, because the Heat are like, super good, and we’ll need him there”
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I wouldn't sweat it too much
The good news is JR Smith will get more playing time to get acclimated and if he is on he can force Wade to have to expend far more energy on defense then he would against Shump. Basically teams have been backing up off of Shump and letting him shoot (Backfired against Minny but that is the game plan) against JR Wade would actually have to get up on him and play D. Now the bad news is JR if he is not on might decide to shoot like he is, and that is when there is trouble in river city folks!
by Robert Curre on Feb 22, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
IMHO, the knicks are planning to sneak into the playoffs
… and not go crazy on the Heat game tomorrow. I would not be surprised if they win today and get blown out tomorrow.
I'm pretty sure
They want to go out and win every possible game. It’s not like we have a 10 game for a playoff spot. If we win against he Heat, that’ll send a pretty strong message to the rest of the league.
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Good point
But Wade is famous for working out like a madman to get in shape. I’m pretty sure he’ll be able to guard J.R adequately and manage to make a couple of baskets on the offensive end. LeBron guarding a Carmelo that’s starting to get acclimated to getting passes from a good PG and doesn’t have to play 1v3 is a very good matchup though.
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who's taking his spot in the 3 point contest though?
Can we get Novak in there?
"Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for Steve Jobs to win the lotto." - Chris Rock
Patrick Ewing - The NBA's all-time leader in rushing yards
Please Novak
I need to see him in that contest
You just got Tysoned!!!!!!
I heard somewhere that Novak does not qualify because he has not
attempted the min number of shots to get in. Same reason Extra E didn’t get in it last year even though at the all-star break he was either 1st or 2nd in 3pt% I forget which but dude was up there pretty high at one point. But you are right Jason the way he has shot of late he would be a real threat to win the thing.
by Robert Curre on Feb 22, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
NY conspiracy!!!
Two years in a row?!?!
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by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 23, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
looks like Durant
is taking JJ’s spot
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by Taylor Made on Feb 23, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Lame.
Seriously… even if the East could use a guard…. Josh Smith should be the replacement. If I had my way, he would be playing instead of Chris Bosh. And that’s not simply because Bosh looks a Star Wars alien and is supremely overrated. The numbers favor Josh Smith too.
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by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 22, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
word on that
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Feb 22, 2012 4:42 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
If the rumors of Shump jumping over Jeremy Lin on a couch...
were true. Let’s just be thankful that we don’t have to see that ridiculousness….
where did you hear this?
i….. kind of almost sort of would’ve wanted to see this. i am ashamed.
Shump just tweeted the following;
Good Luck to @cbudinger @realdwill7 @king24george & Jeremy Evans @UtahJazz in #SpriteSlam. Need 2 stay in NY to get better for @nyknicks.
Can we maybe get to game two
With this roster as is before talking trades? Haven’t we had enough of those already anyway? This roster should be set for the remainder of the season and beyond.
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Oh yeah
makes all the sense in the world. Clippers already have Griffin/Jordan down low and signed Butler to a new contract.
today at work
My horrible boss as usual comes into my cubical to get my knicks opinion, as I am the most well versed in this subject around the office. About ten minutes into an awful conversation about him telling me we need to start novak and and Jr smog he throws the post on my desk and gets all damped about trading melo. I put my head in my hands, stood up, and told him I was taking a half day. God I hate my boss…… and he post.
YERPPPP
by turiafs beard on Feb 22, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
jr smith*
Sup autocorrect. Also ameped not damped
YERPPPP
by turiafs beard on Feb 22, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
I still totally got the vibe you were going for with "damped"
it might even be more appropriate, but yeah, just have to come to grips with the fact that in a market THIS huge, there’ll be enough Knick fans to parrot and power sports radio through until the heat death of the universe. As the final sun blinks out of existence the last voice will be heard shrilly screaming “This is all Dantoni’s fault!”
I dream of Eddy Curry feeding me fish sticks.
Look at it Dave. Look at it.
I loathe autocorrect
stupid phone trying to tell me what to do.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Feb 22, 2012 4:47 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Unfortunately
It just doesnt end, if kobe bryant played here reporters, owners, executives, and probably a ball boy or two would be catching f-bombs left and right
Roster set for season
I hope it is. We have not had that in NY in quite some time. Players need time to mesh. We have to be somewhat patient. No training camp, not much practice. Look st the teams who have been together 2-3 years..their records show it (Spurs, Celts, Thunder, Heat, Hawks). There is something to be said about chemistry IMHO.
by skyballer on Feb 22, 2012 3:26 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I was thinking yesterday that if they rested him for a game they should maybe just rest him through the break. He’ll be sorely missed in the Heat game but that’s gonna be a tough one anyhow.
I would agree if this was a normal season.
However, we are halfway through and a game under .500.
The Knicks can not afford the luxuries of resting players until a playoff spot is locked up. we can’t afford to assume anything, unfortunately.
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by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 22, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll go out on a limb and say a playoff spot is not in jeopardy, but they can’t afford losses because they need to try their damndest to take the division or at least move up a good number of spots
Right
But the point is, the Knicks shouldn’t choose certain games to rest guys like Melo or Amar’e or Tyson, etc. That instantly puts us at a disadvantage.
It would be nice to do what Popovich does, and if we were 23-10, we could, lol.
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by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 23, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
nets fan here
i kinda feel bad for the knicks cus they might lose the next 4 after this game
well we play the games taking that chance
like every other team. If it were all predetermined there would be no point to any of it. We watch with the hope these teams can defy the odds. They play because for them, the odds are just another hurdle to overcome.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Feb 22, 2012 4:54 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Thanks for the sympathy
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