FIRE WOODSON!!!

that all the fools clamoring for d’antoni to be fired believe woodson is a perfect fit and obvious choice.

But I know the Hawks didn’t do shit with him as coach and they have had their core guys for more than a few years now…. and they are a solid bunch. They made some noise last year, but this is all post-Woodson.

I am not impressed at all. Amare and Melo look no different than they did last year and though I wasn’t expecting drastic changes from them, I did expect improvement with the addition of Tyson Chandler. But I don’t remember such chaotic run-away D the Knicks showcase when other team set picks. It’s comically bad too.

And maybe one reason for the offensive struggles could be frustration with the defense and having the players essentially deal with 2 head coaches??

Maybe Pringles was right to balk at this kind of thing when he was in Phoenix cus it hasn’t inspired much confidence in New York. Even though our defense is improved as whole, I kinda attribute that more to the players on the floor than the assignments.

Dude gets fired and suddenly Hawks beat Orlando and they did easily. All they had to do was switch Horfort to PF position and put a bunch of back ups on Howard and let him dominate, get to free throw line, etc, but keep his team mates cold. It worked and ATlanta beat the magic. Woodson had the most inconsistent team when he coached them and I don’t ever remember him being mentioned as a good defensive coach. I am still somewhat lost as to why he is here for defense. Defense has improved because of Tyson, Jorts, Shump and others players have bought into it, They could do this without woodson but MDA got tired of the media and criticism so he added him to his staff just to say “fuck you” to the press and critics.

Therefore, I have had the rare “treat” of watching just about every Suns game during the Dantoni era, many of them in person. Not because I was a Suns fan, it was simply the only basketball on tv to watch.

This is my 8th year of Dantoni, not many can make this claim. I knew from the moment he got the Knicks job that we were totally screwed.

Everyone here in Phoenix knows that Steve Nash actually coached that team, Nash was essentially a player/coach.

That is rare these days, but Steve Nash’s talent is even rarer.

I have seen Nash draw up the final play on the clipboard during time outs, Nash is the person that got in the ear of players taking poor shots, Nash was the ball mover/facilitator and made mediocre talent shine.

One mediocre talent was Mike Dantoni. Steve Nash being the humble guy that he is, would give credit to Dantoni for everything. He sincerely liked Mike and wanted to help him any way he could.

The man did not coach the Suns, he merely orchestrated the substitutions and the time outs. He was more of a manager. Nash the head coach.

Now we see what Mikey D the manager looks like without his head coach Nash around.

This ugly experiment is called your New York Knicks.

Remember this is my 8th year of Dantoni ball, I know this man inside and out. He is not a coach, he is a manager.

I was lucky enough to have a courtside seat near the Suns bench when they we hosting the Knicks. Here is what I witnessed:

“From my courtside seat I watched Mikey D. draw up a last second play and he showed it to Nash first. Nash just shook his head "no." Then grabbed the eraser out of Mikey D’s hand like he was a ball boy.”

“Nash quickly drew something up, which I could not see unfortunately, and went over to the huddle and explained it to the team. I believe the result was a nice wide-open, top of key, three pointer that Nash swished.”

“I’ll tell ya, that Steve Nash can coach! There are a million other things I have seen over his 5 years in Phoenix, but do I really need more than that one story there to convince the Pro-toni’s out there?”

The “Rating and Debating: What does D’Antoni do with Toney Douglas?” thread

You should realize that Woodson has brought a number of problems with him, and the defense is very predictable. Shumpert + Tyson Chandler would make any defense much better than what they had last year. Plus they play Jared Jeffries who is pretty much only defense. Woodson deserves no credit for that.

In terms of the Hawks becoming better while he was there, the talent increased finally. You can’t give Woodson credit for the Hawks and not give D’Antoni credit for the Suns, when the Suns were much more successful.

And that story about Steve Nash managing the team- I’m not surprised. It’s like with the Colts this year. And you know what, any coach would let Nash run a play for himself since he’s one of the best shooters ever. I haven’t liked what D’Antoni’s done, but at least he made some adjustments.

These guys come out swinging and act like everyone else gives Pringles a free pass for the Knicks record. That shit is what sells you guys out instantly. If you really paid attention to this site consistently, you would see (or should see) how we absolutely DON’T offer any free passes for ANYONE. Mike D’Antoni’s system has been so meticulously broken down, over analyzed, dissected, and run through the damn grinder that it isn’t even worth breaking down anymore. There are strengths and there are flaws.
But you guys think you can just sum it all up with one line and think you have the answer. Don’t be such fools.

You know what D’Antoni has gotten? It sure as shit hasn’t been a pass. He’s gotten patience. At least that’s what we are trying to give him. This is the NBA, kids. This isn’t NBA Live 2012 where you can just pick one guy and make him go off every game and then trade some bullshit to end up with an All-Star team. We’ve got one of the most dynamic scorers in the game, but even I can see that one guy can’t just bulldoze a defense ISO style and think you can win the game.

NBA Defenses will stop that shit after 2-3 tries if you keep doing the same damn thing every time. Our guys are starting to mesh and that shit takes time. It doesn’t have anything to do with the plays. It’s getting used to what each other guy can actually do. You look at a team like the Celtics and they know exactly how to execute their shit. They know where to be and they do exactly what they need to do, especially when the game is on the line. But look at our Knicks against them. Did nobody notice how willing Carmelo was to pass out of the double/triple teams?? He’s starting to get it! He dished to a ROOKIE in crunchtime, and then against to a 2nd year 2n-round draft pick. No, the wide open shots didn’t go in, but that is the first fucking step. Dude has started to trust his teammates. Now, it didn’t happen when Melo forced that final 3 over 2 guys, but that is another step we will take in time (hopefully). The ISOs were less because the Knicks are becoming more willing to let someone other than Melo and STAT handle the shots. You gotta make teams respect your teammates so you CAN go ISO every so often though.
D’Antoni is the head of this team. But you can’t fucking force chemistry. It has to happen in its own time. And of course there are extenuating circumstances that make it even more difficult this season. In Games, you need that W so you go with what you know and what works. There’s no time to hold hands with each other and learn on the fly. Practice is where you learn that shit. The Knicks struggles are the combination of everything bombarding them from all directions. The lack of a playmaking PG, the Win-Now mode, the shortened leash of the coach who is fighting for his job in a shortened season where teams are playing 4+ games a week every week, the new defensive coordinator he was forced to hire, the roster with so little flexibility because of past trades executed by OTHER PEOPLE. Man, this season isn’t about JUST the Coach. There is no one person to blame for anything here.

MAKE ME THINK THE POST WILL BE UBER RATIONAL!!!!!