Everybody's being so nice!
It just warms all of my ventricles to see Mike D'Antoni cheerful and effusive after a game. I'd fallen into the habit of grumpily shutting off my TV after the final buzzer, but I realized last night that if I left it on, I'd quite enjoy the programming. Indeed, D'Antoni was in rare form. Howard Beck captured his best lines:
He called Jeffries’s performance "unbelievably good," then paused and said, "Indulge me one second.
"Anybody who boos Jared Jeffries has got to re-examine their life a little bit," D’Antoni said. "I’m sorry to have to — I love our fans, and I like Madison Square Garden, the arena — but here’s a guy who came back to us, minimum contract. He could have gone to a lot of other teams. He plays as hard as anybody could possibly ever play, with injuries, everything you ask him. He takes every charge, every dirty play, every rebound. He works every second.
And that's just a portion of D'Antoni's paean-rant. To be fair, the Garden crowd isn't as prone to booing Jeffries as they are to groaning when he lines up a jumper (which is hilarious and mostly involuntary, but definitely doesn't help matters). If anybody needs to be defended from booing, it's Toney Douglas.
Either way, Jeffries caught wind of that comment and volleyed some plaudits right back at his coach:
"Me and coach have a great relationship, and I’ll die for him," Jeffries said. "That’s why I take charges, why I dive out there, because he’s the best coach in the N.B.A. There’s no coach in the N.B.A. that’s a better players’ coach...
Good thing I didn't get all choked up when I read that late last night! That would have been embarrassing.
For more good vibez between D'Antoni and Jeremy Lin, take the jump.
From Beck again:
"I’m riding him like freaking Secretariat," Coach Mike D’Antoni said, laughing. "I was going to take him out, and he looked at me and said, ‘I don’t want to come out.’ "
That moment came with about 15 minutes left. Lin said he knew he could push through, and he thanked D’Antoni for the show of faith.
"He left me in, through all the mistakes," Lin said. "And I think that’s huge, when you’re a player and you have eight turnovers in a game and he lets you play through it. That’s unbelievable."
So, that's pretty sweet, too (although what is Lin, stupid? He almost made himself become dead! If I played that much sports without a rest I would probably turn to a dead guy.).
Anyway, D'Antoni and most other parties involved also expressed patience and an appropriate level of uncertainty with the current state of affairs, but just to hear everybody in good spirits and exchanging kudos without having to grasp at straws is really, really lovely and mustn't be taken for granted after what the team's been through this season.
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so what is off limits here
cause i here people poking fun at russians all the time..is it just any ethnicity we have on our team?
we should all just sit down and watch Russell Peters' stand-up
but i suppose its better to be safe than sorry, even though for the most part its all just good-natured ribbing.
and now that i did it again i can see the racial correlation
but everyone knows this is an emoticon.that means like ….“really dude” i put that at the moment he stuck out his blue tongue..and seth apparently took that as a racist thing….lol stop thinking in racist ways SETH!
If you say so..
I know it’s all in good fun, but let’s just try to avoid anything even remotely questionable. It shouldn’t be difficult.
It's just jokes though man
I understand, your board, you do what you want. but, unless somebody is explicitly making racist/sexist comments to espouse their beliefs, I really dont know why anybody cares. There is so much bullshit that goes on in life, to get worked up over somebody making a joke on a sports blog, it just isnt worth it IMO. I already have enough bullshit going on in my head, I dont need people I only know electronically living rent free up there. /endrant
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by MetsKnicksRutgers on Feb 7, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
That's just the way it is, unfortunately
The people who get offended are the ones who make the rules, and the rest of us need to live by them. Ideally, society will get to a point one day where people are too strong to be offended by idle words and labels, but we’re not there yet.
by nocookiesforme on Feb 7, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
I think the ideal is that society gets to a point where we stop being offensive...
by bucketsncents on Feb 7, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
the people who get offended are the oned who make the rules?
i dont even know what that is supposed to mean. In this case we’re talking Taiwanese Americans …soooo you mean they secretly run the USA via some shadow regime? I don’t get it?
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Feb 7, 2012 2:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah that came accross in a much more inflammatory fashion than I meant it to...
All I meant was that there often some people who overlook certain things that other people might find offensive. Sometimes, that first bunch of people even make up the majority. But as long as there are any people out there who are offended by something, then those people’s views must be respected, even if other people would deem something acceptable. The case of the seemingly innocuous forum post is a perfect example of that.
by nocookiesforme on Feb 7, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
I have found
the ones who get offended are those not included in the population being stereotyped. Great example being the “Conjoined Fetus Lady” South Park episode.
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by MetsKnicksRutgers on Feb 7, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
and, again, I know most folks mean well. I think a lot of the jokes are perfectly harmless and mostly inoffensive. There have already been some tasteless ones that would definitely be construed as offensive, though, (several of which I’ve deleted), and I’d rather draw the line too low than too high. As much as it feels like we all know each other here, we don’t. There are thousands of people with accounts here, and that means some of us are bound to be offended by even well-meaning racial humor and others are bound to pick it up and take it too far.
by Seth on Feb 7, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Good point buddy
I didnt think about the people that visit occasionally, or dont post. As regulars, we all get used to each other i guess… that in turn brings a pretty carefree atittude, and some funny shit that is said, BECAUSE we all know each other relatively and can be grotesque or edgy. With those that dont read often or dont post, we dont know what pushes their buttons… long story short, I hear ya sethy seth and I am sorry if you got any email complaining about my comment in the pre-postgame thread
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by MetsKnicksRutgers on Feb 7, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Well handled, captain
While we should have to pretend we don’t notice the guy is of Asian descent, and it is significant, I mean, he’s the only Asian – American who has ever played in the NBA, for those of us that didn’t grow up Asian it’s hard to know what’s going to cross someone’s line and stir up some unpleasant feelings.
Sometimes goys will goof on Jewish stereotypes and it’s cool and I feel celebrated, sometimes they cross the line and they don’t tend to know where that is. Sometimes better sorry than safe, because we shouldn’t feel afraid to talk. But in a written forum like this, where people are basically strangers and there is no benefit of body language and facial expressions, better safe than sorry.
Would any of the Asian-American contributors here like to chime in on this issue?
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by fuhry on Feb 7, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
My girl
makes fun of her mom saying "fruits, “foods”, and “you know” when we really dont know at all, all the time. She personally wouldnt care at all, but shes also whitewashed as hell and a stupid hipster, so in her case its “cool” to not care.
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by MetsKnicksRutgers on Feb 7, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Ahem...
he’s the only Asian – American who has ever played in the NBA
One of the oldest former Knickerbockers, Wat Misaka, would like to have a word with you.
by urban analrapist on Feb 7, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry about that
I thought I read that somewhere. Must have been he is currently the only one.
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I'm Asian-American technically
Indian. Personally, I think there’s a fine line between derogatory and stereotypical. For instance, there is a stereotype about Asians being good at math, etc. Is that derogatory? Hell no.
Is making a comment about Lin’s eyes derogatory? Moreso. But if you take every single joke that REMOTELY mentions the elephant in the room (as PC as we want to be, the fact is Lin is a Chinese-American kid from the Bay Area and that simply is not a common story in the NBA), it’s just being a PC nazi I feel.
But Seth is right to err on the side of being cautious. There are some bad jokes that are made and other blogs tend to let more go than should be acceptable.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
dude I'm not even asian and can tell ya that'll probably be intrpretted as insensitive malicious or not.
safe thing to do…just remember he’s a basketball player, forget he’s Asian. Can’t go wrong that way.
sreh ladien e' ta janjia
by Lord Smackington on Feb 7, 2012 2:31 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I hear
Deron Williams doesn’t feel so bad anymore now that Lin has torched another pg. Bring on Wall!
by the mecca on Feb 7, 2012 10:09 AM EST via mobile reply actions
i heard after the game, Lin called Deron and said
i wish you would step back from the ledge my friend…
by blackhova on Feb 7, 2012 10:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Deron's upset
because the liklihood of him being traded for Melo is dropping by the second.
Get The Frickin' Rebound
Every breath of fresh air is now renamed Jeremy Lin
for the moment he’s giving us fresh Rated PG air. Mike Breen said hes the flavor of the month, hopefully he’ll be the flavor of the year!
by blackhova on Feb 7, 2012 10:10 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Flavor of the decade!
My Wife is a Patriot's fan...
"Giants rely on fumbles and stripping the ball. If the pats secure the ball, then the pats win, but if they fumble or let the ball get striped than the giants win. every game the giants play they always benefit from the other teams bonehead mistakes (fumbled or striped) not from thier skills. The giants are a dirty team, I can’t think of any othe team as dirty as the giants. They try to strip the ball as hard as they can because they know they can’t win a fair game." by EaglesNeedD on Jan 23, 2012 2:01 AM EST
by Giantssincesix on Feb 7, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Totally agree w/ D'antoni on Jeffries
I know his shooting is often poorly timed and looks awkward, but this guy takes more of a beating than any other Knick. Seriously, watch the bruising he takes on these charges, its a pounding and he’s forcing turnovers for opposing teams (turnovers leading to additional possessions, obviously). Next time he takes a knee to the groin and hits the deck on the charge, watch what follows when the Knicks get the ball and Melo floats a contact-free jumper up..who gets the accolades in this scenario?
taking a charge
is the most team oriented play in any spot. I mean, its literally putting your body on the line while some really big strong dude comes flying at your full speed. I would prob break in half trying to take one NBA charge.
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
Jeffries is my favorite Knick right now
I love his hustle, and the fact that he loves being a Knick
Can't say he's my full-on favorite Knick...
but we need more fans like you.
He has played
extremely well recently, and this year he has actually been much better than in years past. His rebounding is better, his touch around the hoop is better, and he has actually become a mediocre ball handler. If Amare doesnt have a TS% >57 or so, I am not sure how much of a drop of it is to Jeffries and Harellson.
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by MetsKnicksRutgers on Feb 7, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
You also have acknowledge tho where JJ and Chan are getting the ball from Lin the past 2 games
In places where they can be effective….Amar’e awaits the gratuity
very true
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by MetsKnicksRutgers on Feb 7, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
I think one of the main reasons Jared get so much hassle
is the fact that some fans still associate him with that huge contract.
Since returning, the only real big flaw in his game has been THAT botched lay-up.
As a guy thats earning the vet min, he’s doing an excellent job for us. Keep it up JJ
Jeffries just loves New York
I remember watching an interview of him and he said he’d do anything to stay in New York. He said he loves New York and I think his family is living here too, so he’d take any opportunity to stay.
My favorite jared Jeffries Story was from early in the 2009 season
I was at a game and these two guys were yelling all sorts of obscenities at Jeffries all game. Well it just so happens that Jeffries parent’s were at that game and sitting behind these yokels and they sat there stone faced most of the time. Then about midway through the 4th quarter Jeffries missed a lay up and one of the guys screams Jeffries “You SUCK, YOU FUCKING WORTHLESS SCRUB YOUR MOTHER SHOULD HAVE ABORTED YOUR ASS.” At that Jeffries mother taps the dude on the shoulder and says, “excuse me sir, but do you have children?” The guy looking confused says “yeah two why.” then Jeffries mom says “Well I promise that I will not yell nasty obscenities at your children if you stop yelling them at my son.” The dude turned purple and didn’t say a word the rest of the game.
by Robert Curre on Feb 7, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Outstanding!
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"He who gets the best players usually wins" - Bobby Bowden
How the fuck do you even say that to a guy on the team you're rooting for??
Don’t you want him to do well? My problem with half the fans in NY, too fickle and too rude
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awesome story
Over the years I"ve grown to hate the Garden crowd a little bit. Seems to me the boo’ing can get a little crazy and only hurts the team. Feels good to let off steam as a fan, and everyone has a right to boo anyone, but being a right doesn’t make it right. We talk about the tabloids and media in NY being shitty to players at the drop of a hat, but we aren’t much better.
I dream of Eddy Curry feeding me fish sticks.
Look at it Dave. Look at it.
by GAx on Feb 7, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
It's not just the Garden
It is the whole NY Post and Daily News tabloid mentality that is now broadcast daily on WFAN. No one is standing up to these people, so they keep behaving in a deplorable way.
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With 8 turnovers
TD is just getting warmed up. Nice to see Lin get the spin and get us the win.
by I know smart people on Feb 7, 2012 10:37 AM EST reply actions
Jared Jeffries is the new Charles Oakley
2012 version.
by I know smart people on Feb 7, 2012 10:38 AM EST reply actions
Are you trying to say
that Jared Jeffries is on the road to becoming a great coach?
Now Seth, do you mean that you would like to be on acid and bump into Jared Jeffries just to see how big his lips are when tripping
or would you like to see JJ trippin balls and then ask him to make a layup. Either way sounds like a fun time to me.
I bet he would focus so hard on the layup
that he wouldn’t miss it, ever!
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I personally LOVE Jared Jeffries
It’s gotten to the point that I smile every time he goes for a Putback and accidentally bats the ball straight up instead of towards the cylinder, or misses an awksauce two-handed lay-up. Think of it this way: we currently get to root for a player who might literally (note: I’m not saying literally when I mean metaphorically; I mean literally) be the worst offensive player in the entire NBA, while still having a net positive effect on basketball games. He might actually have a worse shooting touch than 90+% of college players. And I don’t mean just Division 1; I think the only players in the NCAA who are worse at shooting then JJ are the 7 foot tall African guys that schools recruit despite the fact that they’ve never seen a basketball before, and maybe some Division 3 centers.
Yet despite all of that, he actually contributes. He’s the only big man in the league who can switch onto a guard after a PnR and actually impede him slightly; he takes charges so well, I’m starting to think his tailbone is magnetically attracted to hardwood; and he can actually move the ball around the perimeter well enough for a guy his size. Plus he rebounds, clogs passing lanes, and just hustles like a G. The dichotomy is awesome. We’re witnessing history. It’s time to stop ragging on him and start appreciating him for what he is: a baller contradiction.
Well said
I will also add that I think he’s one of those guys that fails offensively in an extremely clumsy looking way. Lesser coaches would yank him for that, and not recognize that overall, he’s having a positive effect. And this probably leads to him being more clumsy, being nervous about being yanked for it. Fascinating.
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i agree
also why is he not focusing also to be our rodman..
if he can get himself banged up by taking charges maybe he can get himself strong enough to die for those rebound he know he’s not that reliable offensively so he should dedicate all of his time collecting offensive and defensive rebounds and taking charges. he can be something special if he do that.
I was at the game....
and I admit to groaning and yelling “noooooooooooo” every time Jeffries lined up a jumper. That said, I would never boo him, simply because he busts his tail on every possession and just seems to care SO MUCH. He’s a guy who’s making the most of a limited skill-set and doing things to help the team win.
Douglas, on the other hand…….yikes!
There really is such a good atmosphere around the team right now.
I’ve been jumping out of my chair yelling at the TV during the last two games… for good things.
For the last decade and change (with the exception of some flashes last year) I’ve been yelling for the opposite reasons, and my vocal chords notice the difference.
Why are mosquitoes hatching in our offense?
by StarksMiddleFinger on Feb 7, 2012 11:10 AM EST reply actions
Hope TD gets defended too
I just feel bad for the guy, he gets booed very often now. I hope he gets back to DWTDD form soon. I still love the guy, he’s one of the original Knick from recent years. Keep ya head up TD!!
by dino3608 on Feb 7, 2012 11:37 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
indeed
i’m not the world’s biggest douglas fan but anyone can see he is suffering from a crisis of confidence. being roundly booed by your fans almost every time you touch the ball isn’t going to help that.
Really hopes he bounces back
With Melo out and everything, everyone is probably going to pick up more slack than before.
Also, maybe Douglas is allowed to play SG more now…
imagine if the crowd supprted him instead?
like, helped encourage him to do better? wouldnt taht be awesome?
I think it was Bobby V who said: "You are never as good as you are when you are at your best, and you are not as bad as when you are at your worst."
Yeah, like instead of booing him when he misses a shot....
Fans like, actually, supporting a player on the team they support….what a concept!
who would've thought
that all it took were sacrificing the first 3rd of a lock-out truncated season to sort things out. i don’t think d’antoni’s job was ever on the line to begin with. the one saving grace that dolan has is how he rewards loyalty.
Gotta keep up the positive energy
It’s been great these past two games, let’s keep it going.
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While I definitely agree Knicks should never get booed by their own fans, I actually think D'Antoni missed what really happened.
While I definitely agree Knicks should never get booed by their own fans, I actually think D’Antoni missed what really happened.
The crowd wasn’t booing Jared Jefferies for playing. They weren’t doing that at all. In fact dude was getting the crowd amped with every charge he took and hustle play he made.
The thing about it was when he squared up for a 15 ft jumper, the crowd, (mostly full of people who are heavy Knicks fans of course) is well aware that Jared Jefferies is NOT an offensive weapon. They didn’t “boo” him… they tried to stop him from shooting a long jumper. They were saying “Noooooooooo!” And they were kinda right too. Jefferies knows his weakness is offense. So this was really a reminder from the fans to stick to your strengths and not get too cocky about your play and try to gamble too much. Afterall, this was a close game and mistakes like that can lead to heartbreaking losses.
I absolutely think the Garden crowd gives Jared Jefferies his due credit. But they also know when a bad decision is about to be made. And I do believe the shot he took… he missed. The guy isn’t a shooter, so no reason to pretend to be.
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by Chris Child's Fist on Feb 7, 2012 6:51 PM EST reply actions
I don't think he was necessarily talking about last night's game...
I think he was referencing lots of other games where there have been boos for Jared not just a collective gasp or “Nooo” when he’s about to launch a 3. I mean I’ve been there many times when it’s gone beyond disgust at shot selection to outright abject hatred of the dude.
Jeffries gets booed when he gets up off the bench.
So CCF it was not people going Nooooo! and it sounded like a boo. Please just read the comments from so-called diehard Knicks fans around here when they signed him. The guy is pretty universally hated, and all the dude has ever done here is play as hard as he can. Is he a good player no he isn’t, but if have the Knicks players we had around here over the last 10 years gave a shit and tried as hard as Jared Jeffries this team would have been much better off.

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