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Pistons 91, Knicks 83


(AP Photo/Seth Wenig)

Despite a valiant effort by the Knicks at the Garden tonight, the Pistons pulled away late and won this late-season contest by 8. The Knicks playing without Marbury and Balkman (in addition to the previously existing DL squad), showed a good amount of vigor and grit on the defensive, end, but offensive struggles and the inevitable superiority of Detroit resulted in a loss. Game notes:

  • Humpty was the most recent casualty of ailment. He's suffering from a stomach virus (perhaps he drank up all the Hennessy he had on his shelf), and wasn't in the building. The Knicks were so depleted that Steve Francis had to suit up and get minutes. I'm pretty sure that if any more guys go down, we might see Brendan Suhr getting some minutes off the bench. Actually, I don't know if I'd prefer him or Francis...it's close.

    Big Suhr's got tremendous upside and an NBA-ready body. Suit him up!

  • One thing I've noticed about Curry is that he looks genuinely interested in what's going on on the court. I don't know that you could say that about him last year or during his time in Chicago.
  • How can I describe Jared Jeffries' ballhandling? I guess it's kinda like a big, lanky deer trying to beat a rabbit to death while it's got roller skates on. Yeah...I think that sums it up. Anyway, wasn't he supposed to be a point forward or some shit? He's got zero handles.
  • While he's often right, Mike Breen's constant criticism of Nate Robinson has always kinda bugged the fan in me. Well, tonight, Nate hoisted up a tough shot in traffic whilest Breen disapproved quite vocally. The shot dropped and, after a pause, Breen was like "well, that'll shut me up." At least he knows. (By the way, that didn't shut him up at all.)
  • Snapshot of the first quarter: the Knick lineup was Francis, Collins, Rose, Dolph, and the Tub.
  • For all you opponents out there, let me treat you to a little scouting report...Steve Francis never, ever, under any circumstances passes in transition. Just don't get too close to him or you might get sucked into the vast, dark void.
  • Curry's problems with passing out of double teams (he's gotten better at it, by the way) are due in part to the fact that no one helps him at all. Every time he's trapped, I find myself screaming, "SOMEONE FUCKING CUT!" My dog doesn't like that.
  • Patrick Ewing Sr. and Jr. were in the house and got a brief interview from Al Trautwig.
  • At the end of the first half, Curry hit a ridiculous, falling down shot in traffic. Barnesgasm summed it up best: "It looked like the Christian Laettner play was being reenacted at a fat camp."
  • Bobbito Garcia's hot minute was with some actor from the TV show "Bones" who plays in the NBAE, and once had an NBA blog that got picked up by the Oregonian. Speaking of Bobbito, I don't think he fully grasps the concept of a microphone. No one ever gave him the whole "there's a mic half an inch from your mouth, so you don't actually have to scream" talk. Tragic.
  • In the third quarter, Frye and Jeffries bumped into each other eye-to-eye, leaving both bloodied.
  • It's been mentioned recently, but ever since Isiah chewed out Nate for his poor defense (don't remember which game that was), he's been much more composed and assertive on the court. He might just be bottling that energy.
  • Francis got tied up in the second half and decided to do the team a favor and get himself tossed. I don't know if you guys have seen this show Planet Earth, but I now have fantasies of a great white shark emerging from out of the blue and swallowing Francis whole.

    Someone needs to dress this man up like a sea lion. (AP Photo/Seth Wenig)

  • By the way, if you're wondering what happens when a jump baller-to-be gets tossed, the guy who subs in simply takes his place. Isiah put Collins in, instead of getting crafty and subbing in a center, but it ended up working out anyway.
  • Mardy Collins' sticky hands (or extra fingers...I'm not sure which) drastically fuck up his shooting, but they make it easier for him to rebound and defend. Solid game from MC Lyte. (!)
  • OK...so maybe Nate wasn't completely composed. On two separate occasions, his folly directly caused Curry to get posterized. One time he saved a ball going out of bounds...directly to Delfino, who rose and stuffed over the big man. Another time he attempted a silly transition three, which got blocked and turned into a full-on facial of Curry by Tayshaun Prince.
  • I have a bad habit of making the out of bounds calls myself and pointing in the Knicks direction. It's resulted in more than one poked eye and, tonight, it sent a nearby lamp a couple feet into the air.
  • The first half was kinda sloppy on both ends, but the Knicks really turned things up in the third quarter, and had one of their better runs of the year (considering the personnel). Collins and Rose played a ton of great defense and Nate filled it up on the other end to put the Knicks up by 10 at one point. Unfortunately, Chauncey "The Dick Eater" Billups scored 5 points in the final seconds of the third to keep it close and ignite the Pistons eventual winning run.
  • Some individual lines...Frye came out hot but then went cold, and finished with 11 and 5...Curry was stifled by zones and double teams, but put up a solid 24 and 5, including 12-14 from the line...Nate finished with 24 and 5 boards...Collins had 10 points to go with 5 bounds, 6 dimes, and 3 steals.
Anyway, it was a tough loss and one more nail in this season's coffin, but the Knicks B team put up a good fight. The Pistons weren't playing their best, but this severely depleted roster showed a lot of energy and made the game respectable and somewhat entertaining. A for effort. The Knicks head to Chicago tomorrow night, so I'll try to get your Bulls KTO up either tonight or (most likely) tomorrow afternoon. See you then. Peace.

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Depressed Fan
Too bad Curry isn't genuinely interested in getting  a rebound, or passing the ball. 40 minutes, 5 boards, 1 assist. But he did have 5 turnovers, so he's got that going for him.

by depressedfan on Apr 9, 2007 11:46 PM EDT   0 recs

To be fair..
Its tough to dish and rebound when there are two guys riding your nuts the whole game. While few guys helped him with the first one, all the guards had 5 or more rebounds, and Rose and Frye added 8 and 5 respectably. The Knicks had 40 team bounds to Detroits 42. It's tough to rebound when you're taking as many shots as Curry is, also.
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by Seth on Apr 10, 2007 7:13 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Some comments...
"a great white shark emerging from out of the blue and swallowing Francis whole"
-Deep Blue Sea style?  Like the sharks that get super-smart and immediately start eating Samuel L. Jackson and Michael Rappaport?  If you put them sharks in the Knicks' locker room, guarantee you Francis is going first.  Jerome James might try to eat a shark, but these are super-smart sharks, so he's definitely second.  Nate is too small for the sharks to enjoy, but they'll get him third because he's so damn annoying.  Hey, you know, this might be a good way to fix the Knicks....

Curry is interested in passing the ball - his assist in the 1st quarter was money, and he passed some nice passes that weren't going to anyone who could even hit a shot.  Curry's been getting better at passing out of the double, too bad like Seth said, no one is cutting or moving.  Still, I was at the game tonight, and was impressed with how well Curry is adapting... he gets better everyday.  Shooting threes, hitting FTs, getting nice assists... his time is coming.

"f you're wondering what happens when a jump baller-to-be gets tossed, the guy who subs in simply takes his place."

Actually, no.  The rule is, I believe, the opposing coach gets to pick the player in the jump ball.   I remember this from a Van Gundy era game - in fact, it was the Larry Johnson-Zo fight game, I believe.  I think their fight began on a tie up, and they both got toss, and the two coachs (Pat and Jeff) picked the shortest dudes on the other team to do the jump ball.  Detroit may have picked Collins because the only guy shorter than him available on the Knicks is Nate Robinson, and he'll win a jump ball with anyone thanks to his vertical leap.  Collins, on the other hand, has like no ups.

by stopmikelupica on Apr 10, 2007 12:13 AM EDT   0 recs

Depressed Fan
Just like the foul shot in Hoosiers.

by depressedfan on Apr 10, 2007 12:36 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

who was it
did van gundy pick chris dudley?
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!

by Anthony Masons Haircut on Apr 10, 2007 11:18 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

oh wait
smallest player...and riley gets to pick.  that was probably childs or someone.

i need to fully read posts before i reply.

Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!

by Anthony Masons Haircut on Apr 10, 2007 11:19 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Jump Ball Rule
"b. The jump ball shall be between the two involved players unless injury or ejection precludes one of the jumpers from participation. If the injured or ejected player must leave the game, the coach of the opposing team shall select from his opponent's bench a player who will replace the injured or ejected player. The injured player will not be permitted to re-enter the game."

I not sure which game it was (it may not have been the LJ-Zo fight game), but I remember the players chosen to jump were the shortest players on both teams.

by stopmikelupica on Apr 10, 2007 1:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

A thought
Perhaps the best pick of the bench for Flip Saunders last night would've been a gimpy, possibly asleep David Lee.
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by Seth on Apr 10, 2007 2:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Flip shoulda picked...
Jerome James.  Then distracted him by opening a box of pizza.  Jerome James is actually the fifth Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle.

by stopmikelupica on Apr 10, 2007 3:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

pizza
RULES.

(i'm in ann arbor right now, where the only decent pizza is from a place called the New York Pizza Depot. Seriously, you should see what they call pizza here, its like thick toasted bread with tomato sauce that resembles glorified ketchup and then too little shitty ass kraft cheese. makes me wanna puke...)

by riise on Apr 10, 2007 5:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Gross.
With a few exceptions (Boston's North End for example), I try to avoid pizza outside of New York and New Jersey. They just don't do it right in most of the country.
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by Seth on Apr 10, 2007 5:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

By the way
Jerome read "thick toasted bread with tomato sauce that resembles glorified ketchup and then too little shitty ass kraft cheese" and thought it sounded delicious.
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by Seth on Apr 10, 2007 5:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Pizza outside of NY
New Haven, CT.  

That's it.  I've tried what they call "good pizza" in Providence, in Boston... all crap.  And anywhere else in the US - New Hampshire, Vermont, North Carolina, Miami... crap.

Toronto and Montreal have 99 cent pizza, which is okay. Not great, but worth a loonie.

by stopmikelupica on Apr 10, 2007 5:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

stamford
also has a sweet pizza place called the colony.  CT stuff aint bad.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!

by Anthony Masons Haircut on Apr 10, 2007 6:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

opposing coach picks player
You're probably right. I know that's the rule on foul shots. Mike Breen thought otherwise though.
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by Seth on Apr 10, 2007 7:08 AM EDT   0 recs

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