Posting and Toasting - Knicks at Pistons~https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/community_logos/29802/posting_fave.png2013-03-07T00:33:02-05:00http://www.postingandtoasting.com/rss/stream/38368452013-03-07T00:33:02-05:002013-03-07T00:33:02-05:00Recap: Knicks 87, Pistons 77
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<p>The term "a game of runs" applies here.</p> <p>I watched this game all the way through, of course, but I'd love to hear from some people who got distracted and had to check back intermittently. I say that because no two five-minute stretches of the <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="https://www.postingandtoasting.com/">Knicks</a>' Carmelo Anthony-less win in Detroit were alike. The game had-- like Dead and gone commented-- all the climbs, dips, twists, turns, and bouts of motion sickness one might associate with a roller coaster. Grab your barf bag, then look at <a target="_blank" href="http://popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/gameflow.cgi?date=20130306&game=NYKDET">this thing</a>.</p>
<p>Early on, the Knicks displayed the butteriest fingers imaginable, tossing away ELEVEN first-quarter turnovers because nobody could complete an entry pass and <span>Raymond Felton</span> kept having small strokes or something. However, despite attempting just 13 shots to the <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="https://www.detroitbadboys.com/">Pistons</a>' 22, the Knicks led after one. <span>Iman Shumpert</span> came out blazing once more with three first-quarter threes and, after the motley starting unit managed to stay tied for a few minutes, Amar'e Stoudemire hopped off the bench and dominated.</p>
<p>Things appeared to get out of hand in the second. Amar'e dropped a few quick buckets for taking his rest, then a three-point guard lineup forced turnovers and whipped the ball quickly up the floor and around the arc to build New York's lead to 15. The Knicks didn't feel like being done, though, and abruptly ceased defending pick-and-rolls to let various guards and Vlacheslavs stroll to the rim undeterred. After working Felton and <span>Tyson Chandler</span> repeatedly, the Pistons tacked on a couple quick jumpers to finish a 13-4 half-ending run.</p>
<p>New York led by six at halftime, which felt like way too little against the badly shorthanded Pistons. The Knicks were not content to merely let Detroit back into it, though. They wanted a deep handicap before they'd even consider playing competitive sports again. All the defensive foibles came out at once, as if spilling from a ripped trash bag. While heaving jumpers on one end, the Knicks switched needlessly to allow mismatches, they conceded wide-open looks from outside, and they moseyed back in transition to allow Detroit yet another big run-- 18-4 this time, bringing the aggregate nightmare stretch up to 31-6-- and a ten-point lead. Ten points! Even without Melo, surrendering a ten-point edge to a 23-39 team missing <span>Andre Drummond</span>, <span>Greg Monroe</span>, <span>Charlie Villanueva</span>, AND its head coach is pretty outstanding. That takes some truly elite fartwork. (<span>J.R. Smith</span> tips his cap. "It was nothing, really.")</p>
<p>Anyway, once the deficit hit ten, the Knicks got back to work. Raymond Felton atoned for all those turnovers with a delightful spurt of jumpers, scoring ten of the points in New York's 13-3 run. New York strode back ahead on what ended up being a 16-0 run bridging the third and fourth quarters. They once more appeared to have the game in hand, but-- WHOOSH-- the Pistons got back in their transition/pick-and-roll groove and pulled back ahead with a sequence of layups. Then, and only then, did the Knicks take over. J.R. Smith-- ice-cold and outside his mind up to that point-- piloted a 16-0 run with a bunch of steals and threes off the catch, and New York finally pulled away for good, leaving us pleased, if a little motion sick.</p>
<p>Not gonna go player-by-player here, but a few notes:</p>
<p>- As expected, <span>James White</span> and <span>Kurt Thomas</span> both started, but neither did anything. Kurt didn't even open the second half (Amar'e did) after boning a few entry passes and bricking his only jumper in the first quarter.</p>
<p>- This was an eerily pre-All-Star-esque game for Tyson Chandler. He let Jonas Jerebko, Jaxon Maxiell, and Vlacheslav Kravtsov get behind him way too often. He did a decent job stopping guards off the dribble, but rarely if ever hedged screens or made any effort to trap them up high. Honestly, given New York's defensive strategies recently and the back-to-back situation, I think the mellow defense tonight had to be calculated from Chandler on down.</p>
<p>- Both Chandler and Shumpert played the entire first quarter, which is unusual for them and probably a result of the Melo-lessness. Shump really looked sharp draining threes off the catch early on, but got a little overeager and iso-happy thereafter. Not the first time that's happened.</p>
<p>- <span>Marcus Camby</span> spun for six minutes, played some okay help defense, and drew a foul on an offensive rebound. <span>Kenyon Martin</span> played zero minutes and did some good clapping.</p>
<p>- <span>Pablo Prigioni</span> missed all his three-pointers, which feels unusual these days, but tracked down a couple offensive rebounds and executed at least one signature sneak in the backcourt.</p>
<p>- <span>Jason Kidd's</span> slump-busting comeback tour took a bit of a step back, as he shot just 2-7 from downtown on mostly open looks.</p>
<p>- I don't think I can fully describe how unseemly some of J.R.'s attempts were in the third quarter, which only makes it funnier that he led the way in the fourth. I was sure this one would end with a high-difficulty J.R. game-winner, but it thankfully didn't come to that.</p>
<p>And that's all I've got. The Knicks won and did so comfortably, but they took some detours along the way. And by "detours", I mean they pretty much stopped playing basketball from the middle of the second to the middle of the third, then went on a 16-0 run, then gave up an 8-0 run, then went on another 16-0 run to put the game out of reach. Shit was wild. In retrospect, I mostly had fun, but the game got highly unfun for a few minutes there. Still a solid and highly necessary road win to prelude a frightening visit from the <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="https://www.welcometoloudcity.com/">Thunder</a> on Thursday night. We'll discuss that in the morning. For now, I'mma go watch these <i>Americans</i>. <3</p>
<p><b>Update:</b> I know I said I wasn't going to go player-by-player, but I should add that Steve Novak reverted to being unable to hit anything and that Shump got pretty soundly burned by Jose Calderon off the dribble. Both a bit discouraging.</p>
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<p>Ohhh, the Knicks.</p> <p>The <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="https://www.postingandtoasting.com/">Knicks</a> went out of their way to make it difficult for themselves, but I guess they came through when it counted most. After blowing a big lead and actually going down double-digits in the third quarter against the severely depleted and highly terrible <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="https://www.detroitbadboys.com/">Pistons</a>, the Knicks cut off a couple huge runs and and won 87-77. Despite committing seven of the Knicks' 20 awful turnovers, <span>Raymond Felton</span> had himself a nice offensive game, finishing with 26 points on 15 shots and four three-pointers. Amar'e Stoudemire added 22 in 31 minutes and <span>J.R. Smith</span> redeemed a terrible shooting night with a flurry of big threes in the fourth quarter.</p>
<p>Short recap comin' up soon.</p>
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<p>The Knicks play the Pistons in Detroit without Carmelo Anthony.</p> <p>Good evening! The <a href="https://www.postingandtoasting.com/" class="sbn-auto-link">Knicks</a> and <a href="https://www.detroitbadboys.com/" class="sbn-auto-link">Pistons</a> tip off at 7:30. I use the terms "Knicks" and "Pistons" loosely because important representatives from each side will not be participating. As expected, <span>Carmelo Anthony</span> <a href="https://twitter.com/HowardBeckNYT/statuses/309439067379081217" target="_blank">will rest his sore knee</a>. Tonight's starting lineup will be <span>Raymond Felton</span>, <span>Iman Shumpert</span>, <span>James White</span>, <span>Kurt Thomas</span>, and <span>Tyson Chandler</span>.</p>
<p>For the Pistons, <span>Andre Drummond</span> is already out and we just learned that <span>Greg Monroe</span> will<a href="https://twitter.com/detroitpistons/status/309444517336084481" target="_blank"> sit as well</a>. Head coach <span>Lawrence Frank</span> <a href="http://www.freep.com/article/20130306/SPORTS03/130306059/1051/sports03?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FreepDetroitPistons+%28freep.com+%7C+Detroit+Pistons%29" target="_blank">will also miss the game</a> for personal reasons. So, yeah, this might not be the prettiest game of basketball ever. <a href="http://twitter.com/Al_Iannazzone/statuses/309452494889693184" target="_blank">Detroit will start</a> Knick-killer <span>Jose Calderon</span>, <span>Brandon Knight</span>, <span>Kyle Singler</span>, Jonas Jerebko, and <span>Jason Maxiell</span>.</p>
<p>The Knicks should reeeeeally try to find a way to win this one, because they've gotta jet back home to face the <a href="https://www.welcometoloudcity.com/" class="sbn-auto-link">Thunder</a> tomorrow night.</p>
<p>Here's your thread. Here's <a href="http://www.detroitbadboys.com">Detroit Bad Boys</a>. Please don't post large photos, .gifs, or links to illegal streams in the thread. Go the Knicks!</p>
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<p>GARBAGE TIP-OFF!</p> <p>The <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="https://www.postingandtoasting.com/">Knicks</a> held shootaround this morning in preparation for their game against the <a class="sbn-auto-link" href="https://www.detroitbadboys.com/">Pistons</a>. <span>Carmelo Anthony</span> did not attend-- he <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/StevePopper/status/309321718034489345">stayed back</a> at the team hotel for treatment-- and he remains a game-time decision for tonight. We still don't have a clear idea of what's wrong with Melo's knee, but:</p>
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<p>Woodson also disclosed that Carmelo has some fluid in his knee.</p>
— Howard Beck (@HowardBeckNYT) <a href="https://twitter.com/HowardBeckNYT/status/309338855306321920">March 6, 2013</a>
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<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAjZcuhvfB4">Fluid</a>, huh. Meanwhile, it sounds like the Knicks found said fluid <a target="_blank" href="https://twitter.com/Al_Iannazzone/statuses/309334215936339969">with an MRI</a>...which they said they weren't going to do...but maybe that was from the previous MRI...but then why didn't they mention that in the first place...but-- ah, whatever. Melo's right knee hurts. It's either fine or there's a railroad spike through it. The Knicks would say the same thing either way. All we can do is wait until he returns.</p>
<p>MEANWHILE, despite the "questionable"/"game-time decision" label, I feel pretty certain we won't be seeing Melo and his knee nectar tonight in Detroit. His absence requires a change in the starting lineup, and <span>Mike Woodson</span> revealed said change this morning:</p>
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<p>If no Melo, Woodson said he would start Kurt, Felton, Shumpert, <span>James White</span> and Tyson.</p>
— Al Iannazzone (@Al_Iannazzone) <a href="https://twitter.com/Al_Iannazzone/status/309334746398347264">March 6, 2013</a>
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<p>Remember all our jokes about Woodson's sorta cocky propensity to initiate garbage time earlier and earlier in games? This is his ultimate troll: GARBAGE TIP-OFF.</p>
<p>But yeah, that's a shitty lineup. Amar'e Stoudemire and <span>J.R. Smith</span> will surely play starter's minutes-- Amar'e might have to crack 30 again-- off the bench, and I guess Woodson's banking on his first unit to tread water until those guys take the floor. Maybe they can just lie on top of the ball and run out as many shot clocks as possible until it's time for subs. If <span>Kurt Thomas</span> can hit some baseline jumpers out of <span>Raymond Felton</span>/Tyson Chandler pick-and-rolls, maybe the offense won't be as hideous as I imagine, but...eh.</p>
<p>I get that a depleted team has to play some ugly lineups, but I'm still not sure why said ugly lineups have to take the floor against the opposition's best. Oh well. Woody's certainly got his idiosyncrasies. GET 'EM, KURT.</p>
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<p>Asked Woodson if enough scoring w/this lineup. Why not Amare? "We’re only talking maybe 3 or 4 minutes and then Amar'e will be in the game."</p>
— Howard Beck (@HowardBeckNYT) <a href="https://twitter.com/HowardBeckNYT/status/309349951538864128">March 6, 2013</a>
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<p>Also:</p>
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<p>Woodson said he's played Carmelo too many minutes. Said he wants to get him down to 35/game. Had been averaging 40 in recent 10-game stretch</p>
— Howard Beck (@HowardBeckNYT) <a href="https://twitter.com/HowardBeckNYT/status/309352486521692160">March 6, 2013</a>
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